Even Stevens

[mogul397]

I only mention it because it's a hard bullet to dodge.

[mogul397]

Since most methods end up coming down to a predictable, common sense, playout,
I like to take the poetic presentation and fashion it in the vernacular.

Many years (decades) ago I used to work with some people. We called ourselves
"system builders", to have a name for it. The other guy was a retiring Judge in CA
(Was a lawyer/DA for most of his career). He'd get called in to fill in for other judges
out sick or on vac.. We were doing a lot of craps stuff, with the tester book, etc.

Well as he sat up on the bench he said he had all his papers and stuff in front of him.
And we were joking at how the disposition of something that was coming up might go
one way or another based on how his numbers were going. Or if the had the audacity
to be talking or interrupting him while he got into the heat of something on the bench.

So next time you're in court (RG), remember that the judge could be crunching roulette
or craps numbers. You may want to ask.  ( Yeah, I know RG.  You drink and get drunk.
When I drank (1/2 gal of vodka a day) 14 years ago I'd occasionally grow hand cuffs.
That illness is generally cured by sobriety. (FYI)

Anyway, one time we were trying to out do ourselves. I came up with this complex path
to picking a bet.  Even chance.  "Do this, subtract that, put it in a bag, swing it over your head,
and SCREAM LIKE A CHICKEN".

The email came back, "isn't that the same as playing "next to last"?"

He was right.

[Tomla021]

this is a fun EZ little system----thanks willy

[RouletteGhost]

Agreed

A silly bet selection with nice wins.

[Willie]

It is. Thanks Willie.

So if I understand the logic, if you get a sequence of "doublets", or longer runs on
both sides, it would kill you.

OOEEOOEEOOEEOOEE  OR longer strings of "virtual losses".
Cause each time there was a change it would be the "virtual win"
that enabled betting for the next loss.

My thinking about the "virtual win" was an ACTUAL win.  Like seeing "OEO"
or "EOE".  The win being the trigger and then the win. Not just the trigger.

Playing and looking for "doubles" (Or avoiding them) is a common stragegy. And it
is surprising how often you get strings of them.

Agreeing with you mogul, that strings of OOEE are a setback here, but even in the long one that you included, we would have only 5 actual losses which can be recovered easily as I have already mentioned..

[Willie]

this is a fun EZ little system----thanks willy

Thanks Tomla, RG

[RouletteGhost]

Agreeing with you mogul, that strings of OOEE are a setback here, but even in the long one that you included, we would have only 5 actual losses which can be recovered easily as I have already mentioned..

Im am aggressive player

I test it with a virtual loss and then begin martingale until a win

Stupid. I know.

[RouletteGhost]

Willie do you play this regularly? Successfully?

[Willie]

Willie do you play this regularly? Successfully?

Yes these days I alternate one session with this method and the next one with link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16812.0

[RouletteGhost]

Yes these days I alternate one session with this method and the next one with link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=16812.0

Cool. Thanks

[Willie]

If either of these goes tough, I wait to come back to at least positive and then switch to the other one

[mogul397]

Agreeing with you mogul, that strings of OOEE are a setback here, but even in the long one that you included, we would have only 5 actual losses which can be recovered easily as I have already mentioned..

I see your point.  But you've still got to work you way back.

Point taken.

[mogul397]

Zumma pg 31

Red/black  L L W L W L L

Even Odd   L L W L L L W L L L W L

High/Low  L L L L L L L L

[RouletteGhost]

i long for the day when you post a method then find the losing zumma page and post it

[mogul397]

i long for the day when you post a method then find the losing zumma page and post it

Well when I'm up and about (soon) I don't bother with zumma. I just run down.  And I made
like 10 trips (if you remember) last fall. I was ELATED. Then I got hit (on paper) for real,
3x in a row. Got my ass handed to me.

The more I think about it there is a larger problem at hand.  The "problem" is that eventually
comes the killer string.  And it has the same look and feel.  It's like dodging a bullet.

There are 2 or 3 elements.

1) Of course, a long losing string always starts with the first loss.  Up as you lose
progressions ALWAYS increase their bets to recoup after a loss. Perhaps feeding
into the losing sequence with bet increases is the wrong timing. It is reflex to do so.
But wrong timing.

2) Playing an opposite (up as you win) progression is a way to go. If you ask yourself
the question, "When do I ever get into an up as you lose session where I generate a
substantial amount of profit, that early on isn't dwarfed by a drawdown that's bigger than
that profit? Playing the up as you win (if you keep track) will give you spots where you can
cut your losses, and move a "stop win", where you end the session with a profit.