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Outside the box: a different view on roulette numbers

Started by rrbb, May 30, 08:46 AM 2016

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nichedelico

This message is from Cht

The pigeonhole principle translated into math when applied to roulette outcomes is:

nlog2(1/37)+.....+nlog2(1/(37-(r+1))+.....nlog2(1/(x-r+1))+.....nlog2(1/2)

CarpeDiem

If you are only observing the effect, you'll get nowhere. Cycles and statistics will get you nowhere.
Taking single numbers into account, what causes 99,99... % of the time a repeater on the Low partition on singles? A repeat on the last 18 numbers.(see 1st post in this thread)
Anyone that has a working method has an answer to this question.
The answer can only be this: you will chose not to play a guessing game. You will forget about hope and the 1000 other methods you read on online forums(including this one). They will lead you to perdition. Forget hot numbers and cold numbers. They are an illusion. Substitute the numerals with 37 types of cars. Or 37 names of people.37 words. Now, you are already ahead of the game. There are no "dozens", no "even chances", no "colors" or "quads"

IF you were to bet on a spun number,your sequence from hell will be this: all 37 numbers appearing in the last 37 spins. No way around that. Table limts and unfair payout will lead you to Minus.
You will probably have to wait for the extinction of life on Earth and Death of the Universe, but say for the sake of it, imagine you are there with a roulette wheel and you got that run from hell.
Once a 37 spin cycle ends, you will observe something: the number of unhits  equals the number of 1+ display.(record this in your mind)
That is the balanced state.
You now that have restricted the play session to max 37 spins, and as you have limited the number of permutations, you've cut one (out of the many) Random tentacles.
If you play only hit numbers, you will lose.
If you play only unhit numbers, you will lose.
So obviously, within a 37 spaces game, the winning bet has to include both the hit and unhit numbers. At the same time.
Your goal will be to achieve Balance.
At the end, from chaos(roulette spins), you will get order.
There are 2 school of thought, one that focuses on Repeaters (chaos) another one that focuses on End State:Ballance(order). Both can be used to profit.
The law of large numbers is your number 1 enemy. Play the same numbers, the same color and same method(bet) and you will lose.
All methods fail unless you find ballance.
This thread initiated by rrbb is not the Holy Grail, but it gives you food for thought. Remember from this thread only this:
1)repeaters happen on the Low side of the dynamic appearances 99 percent of time. That is just 1 principle.
2) you need to create a game, where you set up dependancies. Divide everything by half, then create opposite pairs. The color, the perfume, the class Name of the pairs does not matter in this selection. The pairs need to be mutually exclusive.
The only way to exploit the dependancies is to seek the balance. That is all.

6th-sense

Quote from: CarpeDiem on Aug 20, 12:28 PM 2022If you are only observing the effect, you'll get nowhere. Cycles and statistics will get you nowhere.
Taking single numbers into account, what causes 99,99... % of the time a repeater on the Low partition on singles? A repeat on the last 18 numbers.(see 1st post in this thread)
Anyone that has a working method has an answer to this question.
The answer can only be this: you will chose not to play a guessing game. You will forget about hope and the 1000 other methods you read on online forums(including this one). They will lead you to perdition. Forget hot numbers and cold numbers. They are an illusion. Substitute the numerals with 37 types of cars. Or 37 names of people.37 words. Now, you are already ahead of the game. There are no "dozens", no "even chances", no "colors" or "quads"

IF you were to bet on a spun number,your sequence from hell will be this: all 37 numbers appearing in the last 37 spins. No way around that. Table limts and unfair payout will lead you to Minus.
You will probably have to wait for the extinction of life on Earth and Death of the Universe, but say for the sake of it, imagine you are there with a roulette wheel and you got that run from hell.
Once a 37 spin cycle ends, you will observe something: the number of unhits  equals the number of 1+ display.(record this in your mind)
That is the balanced state.
You now that have restricted the play session to max 37 spins, and as you have limited the number of permutations, you've cut one (out of the many) Random tentacles.
If you play only hit numbers, you will lose.
If you play only unhit numbers, you will lose.
So obviously, within a 37 spaces game, the winning bet has to include both the hit and unhit numbers. At the same time.
Your goal will be to achieve Balance.
At the end, from chaos(roulette spins), you will get order.
There are 2 school of thought, one that focuses on Repeaters (chaos) another one that focuses on End State:Ballance(order). Both can be used to profit.
The law of large numbers is your number 1 enemy. Play the same numbers, the same color and same method(bet) and you will lose.
All methods fail unless you find ballance.
This thread initiated by rrbb is not the Holy Grail, but it gives you food for thought. Remember from this thread only this:
1)repeaters happen on the Low side of the dynamic appearances 99 percent of time. That is just 1 principle.
2) you need to create a game, where you set up dependancies. Divide everything by half, then create opposite pairs. The color, the perfume, the class Name of the pairs does not matter in this selection. The pairs need to be mutually exclusive.
The only way to exploit the dependancies is to seek the balance. That is all.

quality post ..best one i have seen by a member for quite a while...everyone should read this over and over

winkel

QuoteThe only way to exploit the dependancies is to seek the balance. That is all.

The balance is a knife's edge.
Many words leading nowhere. Nice philosophie. But it got nothing to do with the things happening in roulette.

There is always a game

6th-sense

Quote from: winkel on Aug 20, 02:13 PM 2022The balance is a knife's edge.
Many words leading nowhere. Nice philosophie. But it got nothing to do with the things happening in roulette.

another great comment too...people should also read this

6th-sense

Quote from: 6th-sense on Aug 20, 01:57 PM 2022At the end, from chaos(roulette spins), you will get order.

like this comment also....for example the streams ds...if 1st stream is in order 123456...another stream 654321

eventually both streams observed will end up in alignment...ie they will both match in the same order .it has to

6th-sense

Quote from: CarpeDiem on Aug 20, 12:28 PM 2022f you play only hit numbers, you will lose.
If you play only unhit numbers, you will lose.
So obviously, within a 37 spaces game, the winning bet has to include both the hit and unhit numbers. At the same time
like this part also
how many times have i said this...it has to be an all encompassing bet...you have to include or subtract any options...spin by spin...

6th-sense

Quote from: CarpeDiem on Aug 20, 12:28 PM 2022The law of large numbers is your number 1 enemy. Play the same numbers, the same color and same method(bet) and you will lose.

totally true...a static system only wins when it comes in and loses out of this condition

6th-sense


winkel

Whatever chance you bet (from ECs to plein) and how many off them they all appear due to their possibility.

If you take one rotation of the chance, you will always find 1 3rd winning 1 3rd breaking even 1 3rd losing. for that you don't need the large numbers of spins - any hundreds will do.

There is always a game

6th-sense

Quote from: winkel on Aug 20, 04:23 PM 2022Whatever chance you bet (from ECs to plein) and how many off them they all appear due to their possibility.

If you take one rotation of the chance, you will always find 1 3rd winning 1 3rd breaking even 1 3rd losing. for that you don't need the large numbers of spins - any hundreds will do.

so true...don,t disagree....

Herbyx

Quote from: winkel on Aug 20, 04:23 PM 2022for that you don't need the large numbers of spins - any hundreds will do.

It's almost the same:
- You look for the trend of the sequence
- You look for a limit of the sequence



CarpeDiem

The process does not mean waiting (hoping /wishing/guessing)  for an event to happen ( a "last" number to appear, a "secret" pattern" to fill up, etc.); That is a losing proposition, a simple product of your imagination. It will lead you nowhere.

When you construct a game (bet):
You look for a continuum process.  When you know something has to happen, you will "tune" your session to match that Certainty.

The  (only true)  goal is to discover the dependant nature of events. Until you get that, you have no bet.

Instead of playing a guess game, what other games can you play at the roulette table?

Reduce the complex nature of random in smaller parts which you can solve. Divide et imperam!

I'll give you a head start: you have a bag of 100 green cubes and 100 orange spheres. For the sake of visualisation/understanding, we'll reduce the problem into 2 groups.
The rules of the game (which you set) are: you place the objects in a bag, and then extract 200 times an object and place it on the table.

What will you know after 200 spins:
-No matter how you randomize the extraction, at the end of the 200 spins, your bag will be empty
-you follow no trends, no patterns, no limts, no math, no statistics.
- a 3 year old can do it, and will reach the same conclusion.
-random will be just random. And it will not affect you.

The only and i mean only way to stay ahead is to bet knowingly. Unless you see the dependancies, and use them to get to a balanced state, you will get nowhere. Once (!) you know the balanced state, you have an option: to Choose chaotically, or orderly. The choice is yours.

Let this sink in.

leoncino74

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unhit and 1+ they are not the same. For unhit =0 and for 1+ from 2 to unlimited

where am I wrong  , thank you

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