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Outside the box: a different view on roulette numbers

Started by rrbb, May 30, 08:46 AM 2016

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The General

QuoteThe chance of a repeat increases with every new unique outcomes,

Care to show the math that supports that statement?

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The General

Quote from: Blueprint on Mar 23, 08:26 PM 2019
Here’s a generation snowflake definition - “or as being too emotionally vulnerable to cope with views that challenge their own.”


Pot calling the kettle black, eh?

I'm several generations before the snowflake generation.  ::)
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MoneyT101

Quote from: The General on Mar 23, 08:29 PM 2019
Care to show the math that supports that statement?

3nine posted this....



It shows in which position a number repeated for lines, streets, splits,  straights

If you look as the groups get bigger.  The repeat comes sooner before all numbers show up
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

ozon

Unfortunately with casinos this is so, they try not to leave, no possibility of advantage over them. I also understand the work involved in advancing the edge strategies.
If it can cause problems, I may not talk about it in an open forum.

Madi

Quote from: The General on Mar 23, 08:23 PM 2019


By the way, it took me all of five minutes to find the wheel in 2010.

Seems to me russians are giving vodka free.

ati

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Mar 23, 08:24 PM 2019
When you test your ideas... which partition do you play with?
Mostly lines, sometimes quads and dozens. I don't mix them to keep things simple. Maybe I should? I also try to convert bets to straights occasionally, so I could find a way where for example I can bet less than 12 numbers but have 1/3 chance to win.
Any play with straights I can only test spin by spin, as it is too diffiult for me to code in excel.

The General

QuoteThe chance of a repeat increases with every new unique outcomes,

Again, where's the math that supports your wild statement?

My point is this...If the number zero has just hit, what makes it more likely than any other number to hit on the next spin or the next series of spins?
Doesn't the number of pockets, not the numbers that have hit,  determine the probability of a number winning on the next spin?
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ati

Quote from: The General on Mar 23, 08:57 PM 2019
Again, where's the math that supports your wild statement?

My point is this...If the number zero has just hit, what makes it more likely than any other number to hit on the next spin or the next series of spins?
Doesn't the number of pockets, not the numbers that have hit,  determine the probability of a number winning on the next spin?
What I meant was that the chance of repeat for any of the unique numbers increases. So before the 2nd spin you have 1/37 chance to see a repeat, but before the 6th spin you have 5/37 to see any of the last five numbers repeat.
We think in cycles, so there is always a new first spin after on repeat.

The General

Quote from: ati on Mar 23, 09:15 PM 2019
What I meant was that the chance of repeat for any of the unique numbers increases. So before the 2nd spin you have 1/37 chance to see a repeat, but before the 6th spin you have 5/37 to see any of the last five numbers repeat.
We think in cycles, so there is always a new first spin after on repeat.

There's nothing there that you can exploit.  The probability of winning doesn't change from one spin to the next and the payout is short.  This means that you can't side step probability or use it to your advantage.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
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MoneyT101

Quote from: ati on Mar 23, 08:48 PM 2019
Mostly lines, sometimes quads and dozens. I don't mix them to keep things simple. Maybe I should? I also try to convert bets to straights occasionally, so I could find a way where for example I can bet less than 12 numbers but have 1/3 chance to win.
Any play with straights I can only test spin by spin, as it is too diffiult for me to code in excel.

You almost have the correct idea....

This next piece of info I will share, I believe only me and blueprint know outside of Dyksexlic, Redd,Pri!


But it’s crucial and once I share it, it might help many of you.  It might not seem as important.  I will not go into further details.  I will not speak more on this and I suggest if you find anything else after you keep it from the forum! 

93% of the repeats on doubles streets happen on positions 1,2,3 of the dynamic sequence.

If you use the information dead on you will lose to the house edge; it will be just like playing an ec 50/50.  Letting you know so you won’t waste your time with that route.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

The General

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Mar 23, 09:30 PM 2019
You almost have the correct idea....

This next piece of info I will share, I believe only me and blueprint know outside of Dyksexlic, Redd,Pri!


But it’s crucial and once I share it, it might help many of you.  It might not seem as important.  I will not go into further details.  I will not speak more on this and I suggest if you find anything else after you keep it from the forum! 



Here we go again...the hints and secret squirrel game.   ::)  I hope nobody is gullible enough to believe him.  Please folks, don't put on the cult robe or send Gypsies money.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
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MoneyT101

Quote from: The General on Mar 23, 09:32 PM 2019
Here we go again...the hints and secret squirrel game.   ::)  I hope nobody is gullible enough to believe him.  Please folks, don't put on the cult robe or send Gypsies money.

Believe what?  I stated a fact.  Where did I say give me money for sharing free info?

Facts can be tested and seen by everyone.

Not sure what you’re after or trying to prove.  But facts are facts! :thumbsup:
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

The General

Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

MoneyT101

Frodo, I would like to hear you’re input on this topic
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Person S

Quote from: Blueprint on Mar 23, 07:06 PM 2019
Read it again so you're clear on what it is actually saying.

11
121
122

or

22
212
211

67%, math boy.

Money said we do not understand.
OK. I will try ...
11
121
122

1 combination gives us a loss
2 combinations win

2 combinations = 67%

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