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Started by SimonZed1, Jun 19, 08:18 AM 2016

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falkor2k15

Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:06 PM 2016
Back to...its not "useful information".

So I post a system... bet on the second column with a "soft" (lol) progression after the 13-18 DS hits. Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so.

You happen to love my system, would you say this information is not useful?

Ken
I think you need to divide the system up into different events based on your bet selections and evaluate them against the probability and payout odds of each event. It might be that betting columns loses more money in the long run than betting on 2 dozens - based on differing evaluations of those one spin events. And we have been taught that your 2nd column bet is independent of the previous DS hit. That's why our events should be devised over several spins with the "equally likely" part removed. We then need to reduce variance and move towards predictability - dependency can only be created within such a framework (Priyanka hasn't yet revealed the specifics); by default you will have different results over different data sets when you bet a column following a specific DS. It's only a dumb system based on the lack of the aforementioned framework (requires a non-random element like Pigeon Hole Principle) and also choosing events that lose more than others.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

RouletteGhost

Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:19 PM 2016
He'll be back. You should kiss the ground he walks on. Why?

Thats simple....he knows more than you and you should LEARN from the people that KNOW MORE THAN YOU instead of fighting them because your ego is over inflated.

Ken

He plays hot numbers

Not hard to learn cowboy.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

MrJ

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 16, 02:19 PM 2016
I think you need to divide the system up into different events based on your bet selections and evaluate them against the probability and payout odds of each event. It might be that betting columns loses more money in the long run than betting on 2 dozens - based on differing evaluations of those one spin events. And we have been taught that your 2nd column bet is independent of the previous DS hit. That's why our events should be devised over several spins with the "equally likely" part removed. We then need to reduce variance and move towards predictability - dependency can only be created within such a framework (Priyanka hasn't yet revealed the specifics); by default you will have different results over different data sets when you bet a column following a specific DS. It's only a dumb system based on the lack of the aforementioned framework (requires a non-random element like Pigeon Hole Principle) and also choosing events that lose more than others.

Thats great, two points >>

A) You did not answer my question. Is my information "useful" regarding its a bad system?  Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so.

B) Who is priyanka?

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

MrJ

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 16, 02:20 PM 2016
He plays hot numbers

Not hard to learn cowboy.

Listen up cowgirl >> So if you had to SUM UP everything that Turbo knows MORE THAN YOU regarding roulette....you have ONE sentence? He plays hot numbers, thats it?

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

dimsun

Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:29 PM 2016
Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so.

This line say much about you MrJ.  Not good.

falkor2k15

Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:29 PM 2016
Thats great, two points >>

A) You did not answer my question. Is my information "useful" regarding its a bad system?  Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so.

B) Who is priyanka?

Ken
Nope - because you have to understand why it's a bad system from the underlying mechanics.

Priyanka's identity is unknown. Turner knows the real him. I wanted to interview him, but he gave me the silent treatment as he always does. However, he/she did reveal that he's under oath, so I understand the secrecy - part and parcel of being under oath to escape the wrath of the Mafia.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

RouletteGhost

Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:31 PM 2016
Listen up cowgirl >> So if you had to SUM UP everything that Turbo knows MORE THAN YOU regarding roulette....you have ONE sentence? He plays hot numbers, thats it?

Ken

A beautiful day

Lobster

Ocean..

You're at the bottom of the list. See ya later
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

MrJ

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 16, 02:34 PM 2016
Nope - because you have to understand why it's a bad system from the underlying mechanics.

Priyanka's identity is unknown. Turner knows the real him. I wanted to interview him, but he gave me the silent treatment as he always does. However, he/she did reveal that he's under oath, so I understand the secrecy - part and parcel of being under oath to escape the wrath of the Mafia.

YES or NO...is this "useful information"? >> Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so. Could you RELY on this information BASED ON the column system I posted. I tried to make the system as stupid as possible but the very fact that you actually are half defending it....holy s**t !!! (rofl)

Okay, a member posts...my stupid column system. Myself, Steve, Bayes, Turner, Tamino, General, Buffster, Turbo, all say its a waste of time BUT you happen to like the system. Do you continue on with testing etc.? One of my better questions of the week (lol). Lets see if I get any answers.


Also, Priyanka is a nobody. The sooner you understand that, once again, you'll be moving on. You guys are soooo far behind.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

MrJ

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Jul 16, 02:37 PM 2016
A beautiful day

Lobster

Ocean..

You're at the bottom of the list. See ya later

So the answer to my question...you DO have ONE item describing the guy? WOW

He knows more than you so listen to him.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

falkor2k15

Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:42 PM 2016
YES or NO...is this "useful information"? >> Five TOP members (not you guys) chime in and say its a dumb a** system along with graphs showing so. Could you RELY on this information BASED ON the column system I posted. I tried to make the system as stupid as possible but the very fact that you actually are half defending it....holy s**t !!! (rofl)

Okay, a member posts...my stupid column system. Myself, Steve, Bayes, Turner, Tamino, General, Buffster, Turbo, all say its a waste of time BUT you happen to like the system. Do you continue on with testing etc.? One of my better questions of the week (lol). Lets see if I get any answers.


Also, Priyanka is a nobody. The sooner you understand that, once again, you'll be moving on. You guys are soooo far behind.

Ken
It depends on their graphs - ignatus' graphs never cover enough spins. The majority of a large audience may choose C to a multiple choice question - doesn't mean they collectively know the correct answer.

Priyanka is highly intelligent - but she still has an ego like everyone else, unfortunately, otherwise she wouldn't be under oath and part of the big man's club.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

dimsun

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 16, 02:34 PM 2016
Priyanka's identity is unknown. Turner knows the real him. I wanted to interview him, but he gave me the silent treatment as he always does. However, he/she did reveal that he's under oath, so I understand the secrecy - part and parcel of being under oath to escape the wrath of the Mafia.

Turner think know real person.  Me think not.

Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:42 PM 2016
Also, Priyanka is a nobody. The sooner you understand that, once again, you'll be moving on. You guys are soooo far behind.

Help need MrJ.  Good time seek.  You become irrelevant like General.

MrJ

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Jul 16, 02:46 PM 2016
It depends on their graphs - ignatus' graphs never cover enough spins. The majority of a large audience may choose C to a multiple choice question - doesn't mean they collectively know the correct answer.

Priyanka is highly intelligent - but she still has an ego like everyone else, unfortunately, otherwise she wouldn't be under oath and part of the big man's club.

Okay, so you're hiding behind the graph, lets leave the graph out of this for now. The names I listed, based on THOSE names....do you continue on with testing/playing a particular system?

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

MrJ

Quote from: dimsun on Jul 16, 02:48 PM 2016
Turner think know real person.  Me think not.

Help need MrJ.  Good time seek.  You become irrelevant like General.

The very fact that you think Priyanka is more intelligent than a house plant, says a ton about you. Sorry buddy.  :'(

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

denzie

Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:51 PM 2016
Okay, so you're hiding behind the graph, lets leave the graph out of this for now. The names I listed, based on THOSE names....do you continue on with testing/playing a particular system?

Ken

Yep. And keep there advice in the back of my head. And then see why they were right or wrong. Sometimes the best way to learn is by experience. This doesn't mean I would proceed with it for years.

You can tell a kid to not touch fire coz it's hot. He'll do it anyway. But he will know not to touch it again.
As spins roll off our predictions get better

dimsun

Quote from: MrJ on Jul 16, 02:52 PM 2016
The very fact that you think Priyanka is more intelligent than a house plant, says a ton about you. Sorry buddy.  :'(
Ken

When I say I think Priyanka intelligent? 

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