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Started by Steve, Dec 29, 07:00 AM 2016

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jekhb76

Quote from: Steve on Apr 05, 06:55 AM 2018
jek, those repeaters will hit at 1 in 37. You are expecting the hot numbers to continue hitting above expectation in the future. This doesnt happen. Look closely so you dont waste more time.
Steve, you also don't understand  :question:
I'm tired of explaining myself over and over again.
Do me a favour and test this;
Bet every number that repeats itself, and after a hit, remove it (it won't be back for this example). Everytime a number repeats, add it to your list (only if it is a new number). After 37 spins, you Will See that some repeaters didn't hit again for the third Time. Now we place 2 units on each and from now on on every new repeater that comes along. (Remember, only new numbers that didn't repeat their selfs in the past. Stop when in profit. Or after 3 sessions of 37 spins. At spin 74 use +3.
If you are done, Tell me what you Have found out.

Steve

i used a system just like that before. And it eventually tanked because I wasnt winning enough. I was still at 1 in 37.

The profits you are getting are short term, and can be achieved with even the martingale. And when you lose, you give back winnings plus more.

Ive played many different variants of the same approach. It doesnt work because you are still stuck at 1 in 37. I think i do understand.
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jekhb76

Quote from: Steve on Apr 05, 07:30 AM 2018
i used a system just like that before. And it eventually tanked because I wasnt winning enough. I was still at 1 in 37.

The profits you are getting are short term, and can be achieved with even the martingale. And when you lose, you give back winnings plus more.

Ive played many different variants of the same approach. It doesnt work because you are still stuck at 1 in 37. I think i do understand.
I know it will tank. It was Just a question, what did you find out?

vladir

Quote from: PassionRuleta on Apr 05, 09:17 AM 2018
I do not agree with Mr. Steve, I will not do it the right way, I think I'm one of the only ones who do not have a deal with the turbo because he never answers me and I'm the only one who does it, like dice, hay have a little imagination
Many in this forum say they know they do not know, because if they knew, they would not say you can not win, because it is clear that what they do. Turbo is nuclear physics combined with progression, but even without progression in many moments is surprising. .
regards

That translation is very bad....
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

nottophammer

Quote from: The General on Apr 05, 06:06 AM 2018Why  should a repeater hit more frequently than a number that hasn't hit in the random game if the same number of pockets remain on the wheel from one spin to the next?



Good old Gut that you, well we know what you did, Cee U Next Tuesday

As you see, 9/10 most common for spins 1-10, thats 10 individual spins

Spins 11-20; 7, +2

spins 21-30; 12,+2   oh look 7,5  if the expected 15 non-hit and 15 repeats in spin 11-40 its right on track to average at your 1 spin at a time

Look at spins 31-40;  2 non-hit of the next 3 to get too 15 non-hit

Shame we'll never know as i left with the winnings, all at this 1/37
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

The General

Notto,

A short term fluctuation is proof to you?  Seriously?

The GUT isn't any kind of proof.  Besides, what you're attempting to say is that binomial distribution is proof that it can work.  Unfortunately this isn't true.  Binomial distribution/basic probability say the opposite. They say that there will indeed be some repeaters.  HOWEVER...they basically say that there WON"T be enough numbers hitting to overcome the house edge because of the extra one or two tooooo many numbers on the wheel.    It's the same reason that you can't use the mYsTeriOusLy LaW of 1 in 37 because the house only pays 35 to 1. 

What about the numbers that hit early but then stop hitting all together?  Your curve fitting models seem to conveniently overlook those numbers.  ::)  (And the're absurdly small samples)

Guys, you can't just side step probability by observing it.  You must do something to improve the accuracy of your predictions.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

nottophammer

I dont rely on LOTT i just use the 15 to come whether thats non-hit or a repeat.


You two buffoons need to learn how to read the trot, if Winkel can, i certainly can, so in time, well maybe you could, but thats a big maybe
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

denzie

Quote from: The General on Apr 05, 02:52 PM 2018

Guys, you can't just side step probability by observing it.  You must do something to improve the accuracy of your predictions.

Alright. Teach us  :thumbsup:
As spins roll off our predictions get better

nottophammer

Den pitch up your tent and watch a wheel for  a million spins, then when you found its got a bias, they'll move that wheel and the General will have made you waste your time.

Whilst you're watching if 32 or 31 or even 21 show just bet there colour you might have to go 6 times but it has not lost, shall i say yet  :lol:
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

jekhb76

Quote from: The General on Apr 05, 02:52 PM 2018
Notto,

A short term fluctuation is proof to you?  Seriously?

The GUT isn't any kind of proof.  Besides, what you're attempting to say is that binomial distribution is proof that it can work.  Unfortunately this isn't true.  Binomial distribution/basic probability say the opposite. They say that there will indeed be some repeaters.  HOWEVER...they basically say that there WON"T be enough numbers hitting to overcome the house edge because of the extra one or two tooooo many numbers on the wheel.    It's the same reason that you can't use the mYsTeriOusLy LaW of 1 in 37 because the house only pays 35 to 1. 

What about the numbers that hit early but then stop hitting all together?  Your curve fitting models seem to conveniently overlook those numbers.  ::)  (And the're absurdly small samples)

Guys, you can't just side step probability by observing it.  You must do something to improve the accuracy of your predictions.
the accuracy of our predictions is when we play repeaters! As Long as you play the numbers that are performing above expectation you are on the Right track .

6th-sense

If people are struggling why repeats are not hitting as expected just an idea becouse of the gaps then why not gather all 2nd repeats in 36 spins then just bet against them till in profit?

Steve

That's still 1 in 37 odds. Nothing has changed. Its exactly the same as random bets.
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6th-sense

Cannot disagree with you there whatsoever..I did mean 1st repeat not second was using the awesome ayk tracker...
Just shows as with nottys sheets that amount of 1 repeats from 36 spins  are not hitting like turbo says even over the course of 111 spins..
Not all of them become hot and only a few do
Bearing that in mind that it’s not working and betting against them the rest of the spins seems plausible
And yes it’s still odds in 1 in 37
And if a number has hit more than it should in its cycle as you say why would it keep hitting because of that? 
Yes I know the reply
1 in 37
But yet people have done test and cannot fathom out how to work the repeats maybe that’s why turbo likes random as much as possible for the numbers to realign to there cyclical orders

But totally agree 1 in 37 no getting away from that

nottophammer

But you do get games like this and if like Eddy take 1st profit
yesterday now the dust has settled  :lol:

How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

nottophammer

Then todays 1st cycle looks like this



The other two cycles are there but its not for me, just watch from spin 11
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