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thelaw

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Re: Revisiting A.D.D.
Mar 02, 12:18 AM 2017
I am not thrilled about being only +3 units after 75 spins


Conservative wins are still wins. :thumbsup:

I would rather see a boring slow conservative result than a dynamic one any day. :xd:
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Re: Revisiting A.D.D.
Mar 02, 03:25 AM 2017
Hi RG,
Yes, that is the way that I am playing.    1 - 1      3  -  3      Stop.        Yes you will suffer one or two 8 unit losses but should still come out in front.

Brian

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Re: Revisiting A.D.D.
Mar 02, 10:37 AM 2017
Agreed the law but  it's just not enough

Agreed bleep

1-1; 2-2 gave me +3

1-1; 3-3 gave me +8

Easy to see what to do
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Re: Revisiting A.D.D.
Mar 02, 02:39 PM 2017
Agreed the law but  it's just not enough

Agreed bleep

1-1; 2-2 gave me +3

1-1; 3-3 gave me +8

Easy to see what to do

Not enough profit......or not profit fast enough? :question:

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Re: Revisiting A.D.D.
Mar 02, 02:59 PM 2017
I guess it depends on chip size.

I'm not willing to win $3 every 75 spins lol
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Re: Revisiting A.D.D.
Mar 02, 03:30 PM 2017
I guess it depends on chip size.

I'm not willing to win $3 every 75 spins lol

Or $300 with $100/unit. :ooh:

Only worth it if the risk is far less than the other progression. :thumbsup:
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Re: Revisiting A.D.D.
Mar 02, 06:05 PM 2017
American Wheel live spin test

Source: Celtic Casino

75 spins
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25 mini games
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11 mini games playable as per trigger
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Results betting only 1st two spins of matrix (2nd bet only if first loses then reset either way)

1-1; 2-2 ---------- +7 units
1-1: 3-3 ---------- +11 units









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Re: Revisiting A.D.D.
Mar 02, 06:43 PM 2017
Thx for your updates on your latest results RG.  :)
Interesting.
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Re: Revisiting A.D.D.
Mar 02, 08:25 PM 2017
im surprised noone got into this more

it is a great little strategy

adding columns at the same time will increase triggers and wins

just have to test columns to see if it works out
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Re: Revisiting A.D.D.
Mar 02, 09:55 PM 2017
ive done countless tests on this on the dozens, to my satisfaction

first columns test was not as good

so i will abandon columns on this

it was not terrible, -2 units in 75 spins with 1-1; 2-2 and even more of a loss with 1-1; 3-3.

so will stick with dozens

must be a layout difference
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Re: Revisiting A.D.D.
Mar 03, 02:05 AM 2017
Hi RG,

I like this system.    You can duck in and just play a handful of spins if you want.  There is no long progression that you have to play out, and even more spins to get even or in front.      It is soooo easy to track.  You know exactly what your risk is.

I have been playing the columns as well and my experience with them is positive, though I am not playing columns every spin, mainly when dozens do not have a qualifier, or I just fancy a switch around.

No, you will not make a fortune with this, but if you increase unit amount then it is not too shabby.     Is it better to win a little, or lose a lot?   I know which one I choose.

Good luck,
Brian

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Re: Revisiting A.D.D.
Aug 19, 06:02 AM 2017
Hi Brian,

Did you ever try just betting FOR the dominant doz instead of against, as I showed in an earlier post?
Can be quite fun if you have a decent single doz prog.
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Re: Revisiting A.D.D.
Aug 19, 07:57 AM 2017
Maybe can play as MoneyT101 suggests and use "hedge"

Play both ways at same time?? For the repeat doz (single doz bet) using the 1-2;  and against the repeat doz (double doz bet) using mild prog (eg GLAT)

Or 2 players....

 EG

Playing AGAINST the repeat doz
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131                    play d2+d3
312  w       +1    nb         
333                    nb
331                    play d1+d2
223  w        +2    play d1+d3
122  w        +3    play d1+d3
122  w        +4    play d1+d3
103  w        +5    nb
110                     nb
112                     play d2+d3
212   w       +6     end


Playing FOR the repeat doz
======================

131                     play d1
312  Lw     +1       nb         
333                      nb
331                     play d3
223  LLw    +1     play d2
122  Lw      +2     play d2
122  Lw      +3     play d2
103  LL       +1     nb          *stop after 0
110                      nb
112                      play d1
212  Lw       +2    end


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Re: Revisiting A.D.D.
Aug 19, 08:51 AM 2017
The idea, and it only an idea at this stage, could be play a few little mini-games; when a profit on both sides STOP

AGAINST
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231
311                  bet d2+d3
131 Lw    +0    bet d2+d3
213 w      +1    nb
332                 bet d1+d2
213 w      +2

+2

FOR
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231                   nb
311                   bet d1
131 w      +2     bet d1
213 Lw    +3      nb
332                   bet d3
213 LLw   +3

+3

Insurance on 0?   Play on nozero?

Btw, I played on for 25 more triple results and finished with +6u  (+3 on both sides). The highest profit came after 20 triples recorded and was +8  (+9 Against; -1 For) at that stage. The highest bet on the For side (single doz) was 3u.

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Re: Revisiting A.D.D.
Aug 19, 01:43 PM 2017
I play the above session adding in differential and virtual betting.
Will this perhaps reduce risk and help at all? What do you think?
Just thinking/writing out loud.... :)

vL = virtual lose bet (no bet)
vw = virtual win bet (no bet)

AGAINST (double doz)
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231             +0       nb
311                        bet d2+d3
131 vL; w    +1      bet d2+d3
213 vw        +1      nb
332                        bet d1+d2
213 vw        +1      stop

======
total=+1
=======

FOR  (single doz)
====
231              +0        nb
311                          bet d1
131 vw         +0        bet d1
213 vL; w     +2        nb
332                          bet d3
213 vL;L;w   +3        stop

=======
total=+3
=======

Comments welcome about this direction. Tx.

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