Priyanka is not the problem

[RouletteGhost]

His followers are.

[wiggy]

How do you differentiate between the 'followers' troublemakers, baiters, scammers and beggars?

You said in an earlier post that Caleb derailed the GUT thread. So was he a follower of the GUT thread and was he the problem or Winkel's 'followers'.

cheers

[RouletteGhost]

talking in circles about something then when asked specifics we are told "cannot share in public" is just the most ridiculous things to ever read on these forums and it is mainly BS

As priyanka has said himself, thats not what he wanted it to turn into

the followers, like falkor, malvador, and several others turn it into a biggggg BIG joke.

just rightfully calling it out

you bring up Caleb. Winkel is sensitive and let him derail the thread when he could have easily ignored him.

Some truths are hard to accept on these forums

[wiggy]

You are always going to get guys on these forums claiming one thing and another. Half the battle is reading between the lines to see what the agenda is. I wonder how many people who participate in all these VDW threads are actually interested in getting to the bottom of it or just talking bullshit for however long into the future.

The same thing happened with GUT. You had guys saying they had created this and that (spreadsheets etc..) But it was too dangerous to reveal. In a way that's what your saying and it kind of validates your point. But they will be a silent few who just maybe have tweaked VDW or GUT to their liking and we won't see them again. Why would we? They would be making money with it. Reminds me of the saying that empty vessels make the most noise.

[RouletteGhost]

Empty vessels make the most noise

Damn, I like that

and explains the forum falkor types

I recently just got back into the game will share any updates

[Scarface]

Winkel and Priyanka are good at giving the forum a different way to look at the game.  That's pretty awesome.  No need for secrets and private messages.  Let the good ideas flow.  All great ideas are built from previous ideas.  There might be someone out there that can figure this game out by reading these post.  I believe there is a solution to defeating this game long term, and it's probably a simple one.  That's why I'm here 

[DoctorSudoku]

Rich,
Priyanka definitely is NOT the problem. She has been pretty forthright about VDW and other related bet selection methods -- and what they can and cannot do.

She thinks at present that these methods by themselves cannot lead to an edge. She has suggested that we have to possibly combine methods, like VDW,  with other ideas, like "statistical imbalances" of events (groups of spins) in order to find any edge (if it exists at all).

Even though she has explicitly stated that she is not in possession currently of any method that gives an edge, for some strange reason, her followers (there are about 6 of them) keep badgering her hoping that she will reveal this mythical edge to them (and them only).

In addition, Priyanka has said on multiple occasions that she would prefer to have an open discussion about the above topics in a public forum (such as this one), yet her followers again keep hounding her to transfer the discussion to private channels, like PMs, e-mails, and even phone text messages.

So, yes, she is definitely NOT the problem -- these other individuals are.

[RouletteGhost]

Rich,
Priyanka definitely is NOT the problem. She has been pretty forthright about VDW and other related bet selection methods -- and what they can and cannot do.

She thinks at present that these methods by themselves cannot lead to an edge. She has suggested that we have to possibly combine methods, like VDW,  with other ideas, like "statistical imbalances" of events (groups of spins) in order to find any edge (if it exists at all).

Even though she has explicitly stated that she is not in possession currently of any method that gives an edge, for some strange reason, her followers (there are about 6 of them) keep badgering her hoping that she will reveal this mythical edge to them (and them only).

In addition, Priyanka has said on multiple occasions that she would prefer to have an open discussion about the above topics in a public forum (such as this one), yet her followers again keep hounding her to transfer the discussion to private channels, like PMs, e-mails, and even phone text messages.

So, yes, she is definitely NOT the problem -- these other individuals are.

in a nutshell you regurgitated my thoughts

which was the point of this thread lol

[Drazen]

RG

What are your expectations from Priyanka and her guidelines if I may ask?

Even if there is a method with an edge and lets say it is simple and easy to play, should it be available for everyone on public forum to get it?

What impact that might have on roulette as a game in the end? Is it possible for casinos to solve that with simple bans, or it might become so dangerous and spreaded that at some point roulette might stop existin? Or another solution is that house edge would be drastically raised, with adding 5-6 or more zeros?

What is your opinion about all this?

Cheers

[winkel]

Even if there is a method with an edge and lets say it is simple and easy to play, should it be available for everyone on public forum to get it?

What impact that might have on roulette as a game in the end? ...
What is your opinion about all this?

Cheers

Yes ist should be availabel for everyone.
It would do no harm to the game or it rules.

There will always be people who disturb and destroy the discussion and explanation and will disparage and evict the author.

You need a brain to explore the one and only solution. Thanks God a nice brain is very rare.

[Malvador]

Yes ist should be availabel for everyone.
It would do no harm to the game or it rules.

There will always be people who disturb and destroy the discussion and explanation and will disparage and evict the author.

You need a brain to explore the one and only solution. Thanks God a nice brain is very rare.

Yes thank god! Nice post

[RouletteGhost]

No one cares about silver platter treatment

I'm calling this out for the craziness it is

There's a private forum falkor has made already

No PMs needed. Just go there with this craziness

You will fit right in. Can talk about flat earth to

[Drazen]

Yes ist should be availabel for everyone.
It would do no harm to the game or it rules.

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Viele danke Her winkel

But what will happen with the ones who are generating losses if winners start to spread like a plague?

Just to be sure, we are here talking about simple step by step explained system, right? Not the one that involves using brain like you or Pri are pointing to. If I got Rg right, he is more on that demand.

Such way of doing business would not be sustainable from casinos point od view, I am sure.

Best

[winkel]

Just to be sure, we are here talking about simple step by step explained system, right? Not the one that involves using brain

There is and will be no such system. It´s a wish and the same stuff as Gambler's Fallacy

[RouletteGhost]

RG

What are your expectations from Priyanka and her guidelines if I may ask?

Even if there is a method with an edge and lets say it is simple and easy to play, should it be available for everyone on public forum to get it?

What impact that might have on roulette as a game in the end? Is it possible for casinos to solve that with simple bans, or it might become so dangerous and spreaded that at some point roulette might stop existin? Or another solution is that house edge would be drastically raised, with adding 5-6 or more zeros?

What is your opinion about all this?

Cheers

No expectations really

Priyankas messages had no problems. It's nice to talk about things and a different way of thinking

The followers turned into a cult and its sort of destructive in a way what's going on

Priyanka stopped PM so it could be discussed in the open

I don't care if people don't want to share. If that's the case then don't post subtle things in public, just use the PM system

People are misunderstanding me for the past day thinking I want to be told the edge on a silver platter. That is not the case

The guys like malvador, falkor, moneyt claims to have some things they don't want to speak of

I've been around a looooong time. Long time lurker before ever posting. I can tell you from experience it's probably nothing that they have. It's an attention thing, and wanting people to beg

I think it is irresponsible of priyanka to not interject and state what needs to be stated. He needs to come out and tell his followers to stop being fools

Do the right thing priyanka. Tell them this is not what you wanted.