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##### Ok I decided to share..
May 10, 08:20 PM 2017
Look guys I'm sorry if I've come across as a joke, that's n
Not my intention, I suppose I'm just excited. Excited that I might be on the right track!

It's exciting to see the "Possible HG"  in front of your eyes. I think it visually shows you all of Priyanka's lessons in ONE SIMPLE IMAGE!

Now please can we work together to get to the bottom of this... I've decided to share because only thoose who have studied it will be able to SEE what I'm on about...

And you have to create the image YOURSELVES.....

How? I'm going to tell you step by step. Then we can all begin searching for PATTERNS that HAVE TO HAPPEN!

Ok, here I go.....

In each game spin of roulette, how many games can be played using one chip max per position? How many games can you play per spin? THINK about it?

Do thoose games have different odds? Yes they do... So in multiple spins (which is actually many games played simultaneously)  will there be overlapping sections of APs and or Cycles? Yes there will be....

What's everyone thoughts on this idea so far?

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##### Re: Ok I decided to share..
May 10, 09:56 PM 2017
Each bet is independent and still with the difference between odds and payout. So this way of thinking won't work. You can't connect the bets. It's no different to multiple players on the same table

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##### Re: Ok I decided to share..
May 11, 05:01 AM 2017
Each bet is independent and still with the difference between odds and payout. So this way of thinking won't work. You can't connect the bets. It's no different to multiple players on the same table

Hi Steve, thank you for your understanding, I really do appreciate the time you took to read my post and comment.

However please let me be more specific by saying that I am discussing non random concepts between each of these games.

Knowing about cycles statistics , AP positions (points at which APs are created)  given by Pri and  a view of the various games that a single spin generates is vital to understanding the link that is created when stacking games together.

Everyone interested can start by making the image for themselves. To visualize the trot so to speak, please feel free to play with this idea and let me know what you think.

Firstly.. In each spin.. What do we have?

Number 36
Dozen 3
Line 6
Street 12

You might think Yeah so what, that's obvious... But think about it? In a truly random independent game. Couldn't it be Number 36 and Dozen 2 or 1 aswell? That fact that number 36 always generates its position (Dozen 3 ALWAYS) through all possible positions is important to cycles and AP structure.. The very structure of roulette itself is not random. All games are based upon the outcome of the straight.

I recommend writing down each game that happens side by side to actually see the trot.
It's completely different and individual from playing each random game separately.

the cycles of all games and possible APs of all games are locked together because of this grouping and cycles from one stream can be used on multiple games.

Thoughts anyone? Can anyone who generates this trot image see any patterns?

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##### Re: Ok I decided to share..
May 11, 05:29 AM 2017
It's worth saying that I'm not claiming anything, I just noticed something peculiar and wanted help trying to understand it! That's why I asked Pri for help

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##### Re: Ok I decided to share..
May 11, 05:53 AM 2017
Maladore give us a working example
GIDDY UP N GO GO

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##### Re: Ok I decided to share..
May 11, 06:28 AM 2017
Are you suggesting a follow the last bet?  Start with high low, then dozen, double street, etc.  Parachute progression?

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##### Re: Ok I decided to share..
May 11, 06:40 AM 2017
Are you suggesting a follow the last bet?  Start with high low, then dozen, double street, etc.  Parachute progression?

Scarface, what a beautiful idea  I have considered many possibilities and parachuting seems to be the most logical.. Remember I asked for help so I am not claiming I have the answer.. I want to find it tho!

I wish I could give a working example... Maybe a few people who understand this could get together with me and privately discuss and maybe find a solution? I am happy to share all my ideas with like minded people who have put the time into understanding roulette like we have but I am not happy posting anything concrete on a public forum. Feel free to PM me I see no harm in it. In fact I see it as protecting what we are all working towards.

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##### Re: Ok I decided to share..
May 11, 06:42 AM 2017
Well give a example of spins and we will work on it together
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##### Re: Ok I decided to share..
May 11, 07:22 AM 2017
Are you referring to something like this pic that Priyanka shared?
https://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=18690.msg175533#msg175533

Btw, not sure when the "trot" became a roulette term but wanted to say it bothers me every time I see it mentioned lol.  Oh well.
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##### Re: Ok I decided to share..
May 11, 07:35 AM 2017
3nine

Because priyanka just wanted to openly discuss this

Nothing wrong with that

But the followers (falkor is just an example) tried to make it into something it wasn't. A grand conspiracy shrowded in secrecy

No matter how many times priyanka made it clear he just wanted to discuss a new concept in the open and that he had no mathematical edge, the followers made it into something else
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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##### Re: Ok I decided to share..
May 11, 07:40 AM 2017
Are you referring to something like this pic that Priyanka shared?
https://www.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=18690.msg175533#msg175533

Btw, not sure when the "trot" became a roulette term but wanted to say it bothers me every time I see it mentioned lol.  Oh well.

Haha the word trot bothers me too but I can See why it was used to describe the unfoldment of the game and more specifically the collection of any set of spins.

I believe Priyanka has described a very basic version in that thread, basic without edge per se... It is hard to explain as there are a lot of terms that people use to describe the same phenomenon, and people have different ways of looking at the "same thing".
While I will openly admit I do not have a full understanding of what Pri talks about nor have I studied the referenced image enough to make any conclusions. I will look more later today and TY for your interest and TY for thinking about my post. Instead of just instantly judging it

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##### Re: Ok I decided to share..
May 11, 07:41 AM 2017
Hey Rich, I agree but I didn't link to Random Thoughts thread if that's what you mean.  And yes, KTF can be painful to read, too!

If you're referring to Random Thoughts the very first post clearly states the following:
If someone assumes that I am going to explain that I have an edge that everyone can play, read back what is stated in bold. To start with let us assume that there is no edge. One who is following this thread, will gain nothing more that some amusing ramblings and cryptic videos where I will boast of my winning sessions. Just setting the expectations straight.
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##### Re: Ok I decided to share..
May 11, 07:45 AM 2017
Ps... The "One simple Image" I am referring too is just that. IT'S SIMPLE.
If you want to see it please PM me and I will tell you how to create it in excel as not happy to post publicly online

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##### Re: Ok I decided to share..
May 11, 08:13 AM 2017
Hey Rich, I agree but I didn't link to Random Thoughts thread if that's what you mean.  And yes, KTF can be painful to read, too!

If you're referring to Random Thoughts the very first post clearly states the following:
If someone assumes that I am going to explain that I have an edge that everyone can play, read back what is stated in bold. To start with let us assume that there is no edge. One who is following this thread, will gain nothing more that some amusing ramblings and cryptic videos where I will boast of my winning sessions. Just setting the expectations straight.

I like what priyanka was doing

A new way of thinking

It was the people who got involved that ruined it

Falknor even made a private forum for it
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##### Re: Ok I decided to share..
May 11, 08:17 AM 2017
If you want to see it please PM me and I will tell you how to create it in excel as not happy to post publicly online

Well, it's already been established that even PM's are not private here so not sure it really matters.

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