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Can we please stop looking for the HG? (and focus on Moneymanagement?)

Started by ignatus, Sep 22, 09:34 PM 2017

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ignatus

Well, now? i just wanted to say, no matter what betselection, system or progression (or flatbet) you'll ever use;

-you'll always have losing sessions,...

so what it comes down to in the End no matter what, IS *moneymanagement*

so, we focus on that, we be much better off?? But this is the big secret also?

Are you willing to share your moneymoneymanegement secret? I'd say that secret may be much more worth than any system/strategy posted on the forum so far?  :question:
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Steve

Money management is actually virtually useless. Its just different size bets. It doesn't help you win but can be a plan to limit impulse gambling.

What actually works has been explained many times, and ignored.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
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ignatus

Quote from: Steve on Sep 23, 01:37 AM 2017What actually works has been explained many times, and ignored

YES, but even with the best advice,(wheelsectors, flatbet, betselection/system) we heard it 100 times yes? STILL we will lose, sometimes,..so,? moneymanagement is NOT useless,? You could waste *alot* of money chasing losses for an example, without a good stoploss... you heard it all before,? How do Real players play in real conditions, real casinos, real money? i'd like to know?....still i doubt they'll share they moneymanagement secret/wisdom, because that's half the way to their success, without proper moneymanegement you'll lose no matter what sooner or later. That's my opinion :/
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Proofreaders2000

I like to have six bankrolls worth of
chips for the system I plan to execute.

As for the Grail imo, you want
the highest accuracy (top priority)

You also want a system that's easy to
play *and one you won't get bored with :)

steven1212

Quote from: Steve on Sep 23, 01:37 AM 2017
Money management is actually virtually useless. Its just different size bets. It doesn't help you win but can be a plan to limit impulse gambling.

What actually works has been explained many times, and ignored.

Wrong.

Steve

QuoteYES, but even with the best advice,(wheelsectors, flatbet, betselection/system) we heard it 100 times yes? STILL we will lose

Yes because you aren't understanding or applying what I'm saying. You arent changing your approach.

QuoteYou could waste *alot* of money chasing losses for an example, without a good stoploss

Stop loss is also useless unless youre playing for fun and don't want a pissed off wife.

When your bet selection is random accuracy, stop loss can prevent further loss.... or, it can prevent you from winning big on an upcoming wining streak. Stop loss is nonsense.

QuoteHow do Real players play in real conditions, real casinos, real money? i'd like to know?....still i doubt they'll share they moneymanagement secret/wisdom, because that's half the way to their success, without proper moneymanegement you'll lose no matter what sooner or later. That's my opinion :/

APs don't rely on money management. They have an advantage so the more they play, the more they win.

There still are uses for money management but not like you are saying

"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
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Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Steve

Quote from: steven1212 on Sep 23, 04:04 AM 2017
Wrong.

Actually I'm not. But id like to be proven wrong. Show me mathematical proof. Don't tell me math doesn't matter. Its saying reality and reason doesn't matter.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Steve

Think if your bet selection is random, why will stopping after a specific amount lost be better? Besides less play with a losing system being more loss.

Explain it in mathematical terms.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
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Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

ignatus

Quote from: Steve on Sep 23, 04:04 AM 2017APs don't rely on money management. They have an advantage so the more they play, the more they win.

There still are uses for money management but not like you are saying

Alright, thanks anyway for the reminder and the inspiration Steve, AGAIN i have to re-consider. I have a couple of wheel based systems, now i have to go back and see what i can do,... i read your article about AP and i think it was interesting and well written;

link:s://:.roulettephysics.com/roulette-advantage-play/


If you read the whole site it will help. Look past anything for sale and focus on the articles that explain why an approach won't work
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Proofreaders2000

When your bet selection is random accuracy, stop loss can prevent further loss....
or, it can prevent you from winning big on an upcoming wining streak. Stop loss is nonsense.-Steve


If you at a point where you have to stop
betting to minimize losses there is a problem.

Try to determine what the problem is: 

could be the system (most of the time),

could be the wheel isn't easy to beat,

could be the croupier spinning too fast
or thumping the ball instead of rolling it.

Could be the system is underfunded.

Could be tiredness or noise/distractions.

Taotie

Here's my Penny Pentagon.

I use it my way, but you can use it your way, whatever that might be.

Steve

In any casino game, you need to change the odds. In roulette you must increase accuracy of predictions. That's all you need to focus on. The rest like stop loss and money management are a very distant second.

How change the odds? There are many  known effective ways. Most logical is build on those.  for example, make vb easier and more practical. They really, really are not that difficult. The word physics turns people off but it just means "why and how".

And there are even more undiscovered ways it may be possible to change odds.

Almost everyone is testing full systems. Its the wrong approach. Instead just test accuracy of bet selection. And do large scale testing with something like rx.

Large scale doesn't mean "amount of spins you'll never play". It means "better knowing the truth"
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Steve

Quote from: Taotie on Sep 23, 06:43 AM 2017
Here's my Penny Pentagon.

I use it my way, but you can use it your way, whatever that might be.

Looks like a cactus cross section. Why am i not surprised?
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Taotie


kingmaq

Quote from: Steve on Sep 23, 07:06 AM 2017
In any casino game, you need to change the odds. In roulette you must increase accuracy of predictions. That's all you need to focus on. The rest like stop loss and money management are a very distant second.

How change the odds? There are many  known effective ways. Most logical is build on those.  for example, make vb easier and more practical. They really, really are not that difficult. The word physics turns people off but it just means "why and how".

And there are even more undiscovered ways it may be possible to change odds.

Almost everyone is testing full systems. Its the wrong approach. Instead just test accuracy of bet selection. And do large scale testing with something like rx.

Large scale doesn't mean "amount of spins you'll never play". It means "better knowing the truth"


You've spotted the flaw, Steve. You hit the nail on the head.

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