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#### albalaha

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##### towards holy grail
Oct 24, 12:11 AM 2010
can anyone tell any single method, with or without progression which can win all these situations of Red/Black (I mean any EC)? Let's presume, we are playing a no zero rulette.
Situation 1: RRRRRRRR
Situation 2: BBBBBBBB
Situation 3: RBRBRBRB or  BRBRBRBR
Situation 4: RRBBRRBB  or BBRRBBRR
Situation 5: RBBBBBRB
total risked amount should not be higher than 20 and in all situations given, there should be a profit or break even(no profit no loss).

#### Skakus

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##### Re: towards holy grail
Oct 24, 12:59 AM 2010
Quote from: albalaha link=topic=1956. msg17688#msg17688 date=1287893506
can anyone tell any single method, with or without progression which can win all these situations of Red/Black (I mean any EC)? Let's presume, we are playing a no zero rulette.
Situation 1: RRRRRRRR
Situation 2: BBBBBBBB
Situation 3: RBRBRBRB or  BRBRBRBR
Situation 4: RRBBRRBB  or BBRRBBRR
Situation 5: RBBBBBRB
total risked amount should not be higher than 20 and in all situations given, there should be a profit or break even(no profit no loss).

Wait for any three reds then bet red twice and stop.   At the same time wait for any three blacks then bet black twice and stop.

This wins or breaks even with all your examples.

A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

#### Bayes

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##### Re: towards holy grail
Oct 24, 07:05 AM 2010
But what about the other 251 patterns which make up an 8 spin sequence? If you can generate either a profit or a break-even from EACH of the following, you have your holy grail.  Actually, you don't need to achieve that to make a long-term profit - just make sure the proportion of sequences which win give a total profit greater than the proportion which lose (but don't forget you have to take into account that pesky zero.)

RRRRRRRR
RRRRRRRB
RRRRRRBR
RRRRRRBB
RRRRRBRR
RRRRRBRB
RRRRRBBR
RRRRRBBB
RRRRBRRR
RRRRBRRB
RRRRBRBR
RRRRBRBB
RRRRBBRR
RRRRBBRB
RRRRBBBR
RRRRBBBB
RRRBRRRR
RRRBRRRB
RRRBRRBR
RRRBRRBB
RRRBRBRR
RRRBRBRB
RRRBRBBR
RRRBRBBB
RRRBBRRR
RRRBBRRB
RRRBBRBR
RRRBBRBB
RRRBBBRR
RRRBBBRB
RRRBBBBR
RRRBBBBB
RRBRRRRR
RRBRRRRB
RRBRRRBR
RRBRRRBB
RRBRRBRR
RRBRRBRB
RRBRRBBR
RRBRRBBB
RRBRBRRR
RRBRBRRB
RRBRBRBR
RRBRBRBB
RRBRBBRR
RRBRBBRB
RRBRBBBR
RRBRBBBB
RRBBRRRR
RRBBRRRB
RRBBRRBR
RRBBRRBB
RRBBRBRR
RRBBRBRB
RRBBRBBR
RRBBRBBB
RRBBBRRR
RRBBBRRB
RRBBBRBR
RRBBBRBB
RRBBBBRR
RRBBBBRB
RRBBBBBR
RRBBBBBB
RBRRRRRR
RBRRRRRB
RBRRRRBR
RBRRRRBB
RBRRRBRR
RBRRRBRB
RBRRRBBR
RBRRRBBB
RBRRBRRR
RBRRBRRB
RBRRBRBR
RBRRBRBB
RBRRBBRR
RBRRBBRB
RBRRBBBR
RBRRBBBB
RBRBRRRR
RBRBRRRB
RBRBRRBR
RBRBRRBB
RBRBRBRR
RBRBRBRB
RBRBRBBR
RBRBRBBB
RBRBBRRR
RBRBBRRB
RBRBBRBR
RBRBBRBB
RBRBBBRR
RBRBBBRB
RBRBBBBR
RBRBBBBB
RBBRRRRR
RBBRRRRB
RBBRRRBR
RBBRRRBB
RBBRRBRR
RBBRRBRB
RBBRRBBR
RBBRRBBB
RBBRBRRR
RBBRBRRB
RBBRBRBR
RBBRBRBB
RBBRBBRR
RBBRBBRB
RBBRBBBR
RBBRBBBB
RBBBRRRR
RBBBRRRB
RBBBRRBR
RBBBRRBB
RBBBRBRR
RBBBRBRB
RBBBRBBR
RBBBRBBB
RBBBBRRR
RBBBBRRB
RBBBBRBR
RBBBBRBB
RBBBBBRR
RBBBBBRB
RBBBBBBR
RBBBBBBB
BRRRRRRR
BRRRRRRB
BRRRRRBR
BRRRRRBB
BRRRRBRR
BRRRRBRB
BRRRRBBR
BRRRRBBB
BRRRBRRR
BRRRBRRB
BRRRBRBR
BRRRBRBB
BRRRBBRR
BRRRBBRB
BRRRBBBR
BRRRBBBB
BRRBRRRR
BRRBRRRB
BRRBRRBR
BRRBRRBB
BRRBRBRR
BRRBRBRB
BRRBRBBR
BRRBRBBB
BRRBBRRR
BRRBBRRB
BRRBBRBR
BRRBBRBB
BRRBBBRR
BRRBBBRB
BRRBBBBR
BRRBBBBB
BRBRRRRR
BRBRRRRB
BRBRRRBR
BRBRRRBB
BRBRRBRR
BRBRRBRB
BRBRRBBR
BRBRRBBB
BRBRBRRR
BRBRBRRB
BRBRBRBR
BRBRBRBB
BRBRBBRR
BRBRBBRB
BRBRBBBR
BRBRBBBB
BRBBRRRR
BRBBRRRB
BRBBRRBR
BRBBRRBB
BRBBRBRR
BRBBRBRB
BRBBRBBR
BRBBRBBB
BRBBBRRR
BRBBBRRB
BRBBBRBR
BRBBBRBB
BRBBBBRR
BRBBBBRB
BRBBBBBR
BRBBBBBB
BBRRRRRR
BBRRRRRB
BBRRRRBR
BBRRRRBB
BBRRRBRR
BBRRRBRB
BBRRRBBR
BBRRRBBB
BBRRBRRR
BBRRBRRB
BBRRBRBR
BBRRBRBB
BBRRBBRR
BBRRBBRB
BBRRBBBR
BBRRBBBB
BBRBRRRR
BBRBRRRB
BBRBRRBR
BBRBRRBB
BBRBRBRR
BBRBRBRB
BBRBRBBR
BBRBRBBB
BBRBBRRR
BBRBBRRB
BBRBBRBR
BBRBBRBB
BBRBBBRR
BBRBBBRB
BBRBBBBR
BBRBBBBB
BBBRRRRR
BBBRRRRB
BBBRRRBR
BBBRRRBB
BBBRRBRR
BBBRRBRB
BBBRRBBR
BBBRRBBB
BBBRBRRR
BBBRBRRB
BBBRBRBR
BBBRBRBB
BBBRBBRR
BBBRBBRB
BBBRBBBR
BBBRBBBB
BBBBRRRR
BBBBRRRB
BBBBRRBR
BBBBRRBB
BBBBRBRR
BBBBRBRB
BBBBRBBR
BBBBRBBB
BBBBBRRR
BBBBBRRB
BBBBBRBR
BBBBBRBB
BBBBBBRR
BBBBBBRB
BBBBBBBR
BBBBBBBB

If this task seems too daunting, try it with all 5 spin sequences first (only 32 patterns).

RRRRR
RRRRB
RRRBR
RRRBB
RRBRR
RRBRB
RRBBR
RRBBB
RBRRR
RBRRB
RBRBR
RBRBB
RBBRR
RBBRB
RBBBR
RBBBB
BRRRR
BRRRB
BRRBR
BRRBB
BRBRR
BRBRB
BRBBR
BRBBB
BBRRR
BBRRB
BBRBR
BBRBB
BBBRR
BBBRB
BBBBR
BBBBB

"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

#### winkel

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##### Re: towards holy grail
Oct 24, 07:11 AM 2010
Just try my mirror-game
There is always a game

#### albalaha

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##### Re: towards holy grail
Oct 24, 01:23 PM 2010
Dear Winkel,
can your system fight with the abovementioned situations? Where is the link for your mirror system?

#### F_LAT_INO

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##### Re: towards holy grail
Oct 24, 01:40 PM 2010
With 20 required risked amount.....NO SIR.
With 5x20--or even more....YES SIR.
Study Random vers.Random---aiming 15-20 each session.
You can always get me on
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#### winkel

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##### Re: towards holy grail
Oct 24, 02:00 PM 2010
Quote
can your system fight with the abovementioned situations?

yes!

look at the old vlsroulette-forum for details

br
winkel
There is always a game

#### dennisbelle

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##### Re: towards holy grail
Oct 24, 06:10 PM 2010
Wait for 3 decisions.  Bet the majority of the last 3 decisions will win again.  If you lose because the minority showed then bet for the minority to show again.  What ever showed last (majority or minority of the last 3 decisions) is what you bet will win on the next decision.

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##### Re: towards holy grail
Oct 24, 08:35 PM 2010
If you're having trouble with those seven series, you've got bigger problems than I thought.

You can run all seven of those in a row under F2 and win a BUNCH of money.

Max wager would be 5 (twice) units betting Up 1 and Down 2 which translates into a maximum drawdown, middle of the shoe, of 10 units but at NO TIME DID YOU GO NEGATIVE.

Depending on your MM, your max wager would be 5 or 6 but at no time would you have more than 20 total units (per your instructions) out of your pocket.  In fact with that sample as played, you'd never have more than 2 units of your own money on the table after the third hand!

I got +41 units from running all seven series in a continuous run.

This is not rocket science and if this is the biggest problem roulette players have, I may have to jump back in the fray!

Just went back and looked at the original question.  You wanted something that would beat all seven of those individually.   Yep, F2 beat them as singles also.

#### albalaha

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##### Re: towards holy grail
Oct 24, 10:45 PM 2010
Could you please simplfy your method? what s up 1 and down 2? What s F2?
could you show all 7 situations of mine as per your method?

#### albalaha

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##### Re: towards holy grail
Oct 24, 11:08 PM 2010
Quote
Wait for any three reds then bet red twice and stop.   At the same time wait for any three blacks then bet black twice and stop.

This wins or breaks even with all your examples.

Dear Bayes, how many of  your given 251 patterns got covered through it?

#### Skakus

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##### Re: towards holy grail
Oct 25, 12:38 AM 2010
Quote from: Skakus link=topic=1956. msg17690#msg17690 date=1287896383
Wait for any three reds then bet red twice and stop.    At the same time wait for any three blacks then bet black twice and stop.

This wins or breaks even with all your examples.

Play this over the 251 x 8 spin sequence and you get about +9 units.

A long way to go for the grail, but a good raw start.

The zero will smash it to pieces I would think.
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

#### furple

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##### Re: towards holy grail
Oct 25, 12:50 AM 2010
Play DBL. when the terrible 2's hit....play the trend.
Once finished then switch back to playing DBL.

#### albalaha

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##### Re: towards holy grail
Oct 25, 01:19 AM 2010
Dear Furple,
What is DBL? This lingo is Jargon for newbies. Please simplify it.

#### superman

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##### Re: towards holy grail
Oct 25, 02:32 AM 2010
Albalala a newbie??

decision before last maybe
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

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