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Started by nottophammer, Nov 14, 03:47 AM 2017
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Quote from: Steve on Nov 19, 08:34 PM 2017The parx results are not at all proof of anything. The winnings you achieved are LIKELY for anyone who played the right amount of time. So why on Earth would you use parx as validation if you are mathematically assured of a huge profit even with random bets?
QuoteHi MaestroI used to using the RX in your way....
Quote from: jefra on Nov 22, 09:15 AM 20171.) Why are you so much against Turbo's Parx test?? Come on mate, you can try too and then we Will see is you can be same successful as Turbo was!
Quote from: jefra on Nov 22, 09:15 AM 2017Can you mathematicaly prove to world, that you can beat roulette with VB (roulette computer)?
Quote from: jefra on Nov 22, 09:15 AM 2017(I today sent you 180 "hard" spins. Can you win on them too??)
Quote from: jefra on Nov 23, 03:58 AM 2017You almost all said very well, except one thing disturb me. You said that a system player must test a system through thousands and thousands (if not million) of spins. WHY? Even 500 spins is too much, because mostly players play 100-200 spins in one piece in casinos.
Quote from: jefra on Nov 23, 03:58 AM 2017YES, this is true BUT VB player CAN stop playing and move to other table or return next time if something changed, BUT system player MUST continue to play, no matter if he noticed changes and started to lossing. We have two different criterions, and this is not fair.
Quote from: jefra on Nov 23, 03:58 AM 2017But with above I more thought on Turbo, Mr.J and maybe some other individuals ;-) because their play does not differ so much from VB players.
Quote from: TurboGenius on Nov 23, 09:28 AM 2017And I liked the "I don't have time" comment - I said that would be coming.
Quote from: TurboGenius on Nov 23, 09:28 AM 2017As for needing to test 200 million spins ? Nonsense. It's math.
Quote from: TurboGenius on Nov 23, 09:28 AM 2017I probably have less "free time" than anyone on the forums (trust me).
Quote from: TurboGenius on Nov 23, 09:28 AM 2017You can tell me that a number has a 1:37 chance of appearing, but we can test and know that 24 numbers appear in 37 spins on average. This already throws a wrench in the works for the "math" people.
Quote from: TurboGenius on Nov 23, 09:28 AM 2017If I gave you a set of dice and a method you could easily calculate how many throws it would take to see every possible outcome.