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Started by sugtips, Jan 14, 05:25 AM 2018

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sentinel3

Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 15, 05:19 PM 2018
Hi think your right with 5 or 6...going to 10 as I said balls of steel right I’m off to bed...but don’t be fooled with your example of spins you just shown. sometimes it takes a while to be in profit but drawdowns are not high but in the main are rectified by wins ..sometimes takes a while and slow but it’s the safest method there is..sometimes you could get fed up and take the loss for a break...but it’s not big money to lose if you did..you just plod in next time ...the key is how many repeats you are happy to go for.for me it’s 3 or 4 on dozens..sometimes I wish I had them balls of steel and went for more I’ve seen them repeat in the row 6 or 7 times but always stick to my guns...motto is stick to your plan..win sessions lose sessions so long as you creep up in profit
Agree 6th sense. The buy in is small. Atlantis first brought this to my attention. He john legend and a few other members had been working on various matrix ideas some years back. But this one really looks like the best of them all.

sugtips

Quote from: sentinel3 on Jan 16, 02:58 AM 2018But this one really looks like the best of them all.

I think now its time to show with examples and testing, please do testing and post sample sessions. thanks.
If you think you can, You can. If you think you can't, you are right.

sentinel3

Quote from: sugtips on Jan 16, 03:17 AM 2018
I think now its time to show with examples and testing, please do testing and post sample sessions. thanks.
I will continue. I have 28 sessions recorded already sugtips.

All from 30 to 90 spins. All have produced a 5 in a maximum of 4 attempts. So a 15 unit prog. 1-2-4-8. Would have yielded 28 units profit already. Ive played a few of them for real.

The most interesting discovery to me sugtips. Is if you have say three vertical streaks of 5 or more. Theres always a 5 or 6 in there or both. Ive yet to see three at 7 or longer.

5 and 6 are the most popular streaks beyond 4. Even when I play my other systems. I know im going to get losses.

So far MV5 is 28/0. I will give a detailed breakdown on thursday. Once I have 50 sessions recorded.

6th-sense

A quick note while I have 5 mins...must stress to other members that the 1..2..4..8 progression is mainly the casinos money you are playing with only the original 1 unit bet which is yours to lose...as I say it’s a small buy in to keep playing...compared to the massive progression trying to bet against..which is a lot more of your  money you are risking...I remember the old John legends days...was surprised no one thought about flatbet and parlay then for the formation of streaks even then

sugtips

Hi, I understand @6th-Sense.

1Question: after how many repeats we start betting that the same outcome will come again? For example when we see doz 3 has came twice in vertical matrix, now we trying on next line to appear again, or after thrice or more, when to start betting?
If you think you can, You can. If you think you can't, you are right.

sugtips

I know we have to test it with positive progression. but I have just tested a small run using negative progression.

it ended in plus.

If you think you can, You can. If you think you can't, you are right.

6th-sense

You don’t wait for anything you just bet straight away under the 1st result in the column in the matrix...doesn’t matter which matrix you use the principles are the same

6th-sense

On my standard flatbet 3 bet parlay on those results you would have been up 42 units

sugtips

Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 16, 06:57 AM 2018
On my standard flatbet 3 bet parlay on those results you would have been up 42 units

HOW?
am seeing -16

Or I have misunderstood something?
If you think you can, You can. If you think you can't, you are right.

sugtips

Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 16, 06:57 AM 2018
On my standard flatbet 3 bet parlay on those results you would have been up 42 units

I have attached those results in excel sheet, pls can you mark green on win and red on lose and repost it here. Thanks.
If you think you can, You can. If you think you can't, you are right.

6th-sense

ok...dozen and columns have a different win ratio...you would bet 1..3..9...the 9 giving you a win of 27 minus the 1 unit we used to start the bet which is a profit of 26 per 3 wins..ie 4 of the same in a row..
your example you posted lets start with the 1st column
2 start point
3 we lost 1 unit as we bet for dozen 2
3 we won 2 units giving us 3 to place on next bet
1 we lost that 3 units but in reality just one unit as we were using casinos money
2 we lost again as we was betting for the dozen 1 above
1 we lost again as we was brtting for the dozen 2 above
1 we won 2 units again as we have a dozen 1 repeat..
3 we lost yet again as we bet for dozen 1 above
3 we won 2 units as we have a dozen 3 repeat
3 we won 8 units now we have a repeat..
3 we won 26 units now we have a repeat...4 in a row we keep money and rebet 1 unit
1 we lost no repeat on dozen 3
1 we won 2 units on repeat of dozen 1
3 we lost as we bet for dozen 1
1 we lost again as we bet for dozen 3 above
2 we lost again as we bet for dozen 1 above
1 we lost again as we bet for dozen 2 above
1 we won 2 units on repeat above
2 we lost as no repeat

now work out this column of dozens had 1 full win at 26 units...4 of our parlayed units were carried forward onto next bet negating 4 more spins of our money we had to place..so we actually only lost 11 units of our own money here....26 units won minus 11 units lost on this column of dozens alone gives us plus 15...do the same for the rest of the results you will see how much you are up..

hope this explains clearly...even chances have different pay out odds to dozens...all wins carry the very 1st bet...so 1 unit placed wins 2 but we keep our 1 unit with the 2 making 3 to bet on next spin..etc

sugtips

Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 16, 08:00 AM 2018hope this explains clearly

Thanks I understood now.

here is another test from recent mpr spins:

      DOZENS               
   MATRIX      
         1   2   3      
         3   0   2      
         3   3   3      
         2   1   1      
         1   3   1      
         2   2   2      
         1   3   1      
         3   2   1      
         3   3   2      
         2   3   2      
         2   2   3      
         1   1   1      
         3   1   3      
         3   3   3      
         1   1   2      
         2   3   2      
         3   1   2      
         2   1   1      
         2   1   3      
         1   1   1      
         2   1   1      
         1   3   3      
         2   1   2      
         2   2   2      
         3   2   2      
         2   3   2      
         3   3   3      
         1   2   0      
         2   1   1      
         2   1   1      
         3   1   3      
         1   3   2      

got only two sets at col 2 and col 3.

how do you see this now?
If you think you can, You can. If you think you can't, you are right.

6th-sense

as i say it can be time consuming..boring even..i would just carry on ill take a look and see what the drawdown would be hangon

6th-sense

would only be down -13 units would just carry on..not much draw down tbh...

sentinel3

Quote from: sugtips on Jan 16, 09:32 AM 2018
Thanks I understood now.

here is another test from recent mpr spins:

      DOZENS               
   MATRIX      
         1   2   3      
         3   0   2      
         3   3   3      
         2   1   1      
         1   3   1      
         2   2   2      
         1   3   1      
         3   2   1      
         3   3   2      
         2   3   2      
         2   2   3      
         1   1   1      
         3   1   3      
         3   3   3      
         1   1   2      
         2   3   2      
         3   1   2      
         2   1   1      
         2   1   3      
         1   1   1      
         2   1   1      
         1   3   3      
         2   1   2      
         2   2   2      
         3   2   2      
         2   3   2      
         3   3   3      
         1   2   0      
         2   1   1      
         2   1   1      
         3   1   3      
         1   3   2      

got only two sets at col 2 and col 3.

how do you see this now?
Wow you have taken this somewhere else. I only bet on even chances. Against fives becoming sixes. Never considered the Dozens and columns.

But you do get alot of vertical repeaters. I would think the best thing to do is quit. As soon as you make a profit. As I saw this followed by this in one of my sessions today.

24-20-33
18-15-21---TWO matches 2nd DOZ.
09-02-27
20-00-24---SIX IN A ROW NO MATCH

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