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Matrix System

Started by sugtips, Jan 14, 05:25 AM 2018

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6th-sense

I usually do stop on a win and restart ..but still the example shown is a good one..it happens occasionally..drawdown isn’t large as am aiming to get in plus ..just takes time and be slow going ..it can happen from the off or later on..dozens have a higher pay out so catches up.ive been down a lot more than -13 .I’m the opposite to you I never play the even chances..how’s that going?

ego


A dozen has 50% probability hitting within two attempts - anything that pass that is a waste of time chasing.
More fun to look at single dozen that way and series of dozen that way with short cycles.
Change the game.

Cheers
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sentinel3

Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 16, 01:50 PM 2018
I usually do stop on a win and restart ..but still the example shown is a good one..it happens occasionally..drawdown isn’t large as am aiming to get in plus ..just takes time and be slow going ..it can happen from the off or later on..dozens have a higher pay out so catches up.ive been down a lot more than -13 .I’m the opposite to you I never play the even chances..how’s that going?
Its going well at the moment 6th sense. Ive had 33 winning sessions so far.

Where a 15 unit 1 2 4 8 prog has survived. And only been pushed twice in those 33 sessions. I will give a detailed breakdown. Once I have 50 to 60 sessions under my belt. I stop at a win. So many sessions only last for 18 spins. And 12 of them have come straight off the number board.

So some sessions are over in 5 minutes. Others take 30 to 60 minutes.

Depending if I get my 5 in the first attempt or the fourth. Most wins come in the first two attempts.

6th-sense

Thanks ego..I did read your thread and saw that you mentioned it there too..pretty interesting comment and so is your thread too..people should take the time to read it properly

Mattjono88

Quote from: 6th-sense on Jan 15, 03:16 PM 2018
Just a bit of an idea for you...I said it before on this site and I’ll say it again...the trick is not to bet against..bet for the same ..bet for 4 wins.so you need 5 of the same to make this happen which you have got...parlay winnings onto a repeat of the same next bet in column...1. ..2..4..8 giving a total profit of 15 units from one bet and parlayed..now take a look at what you would have made following this simple rule ..less money more profit..may go on a bit to be in profit sometimes but it’s the way to look at it properly ..if a different oppisite result comes out take loss and start from one unit again for it to repeat and parlay and for the latest result


Ok so betting the dozen to repeat for 4 in a row.
1 win 3
3 win 9
9 win 27

1u loss every time it changes.

First test attached image but the questions are...
*How long can a run go without hitting 4 same dozens in a row.
*what progression to use so.. Maybe after 20 losses. We double the bet... Not sure!

Going with the flow!!

Mattjono88

1u for 20 Ls.    (-20)
2u for 20 Ls.    (-40)
4u for 20 Ls.   (-80)
10u for 20 Ls.  (-200)

Total loss if no hit in 80 bets = - 340
Going with the flow!!

6th-sense

I’ve never done that before..so couldn’t say I usually just stay as is...so never tested..are you referring to total bankroll in minus before stepping up?...

Mattjono88

Yea step up to next progression after 20 losses. Worth a better look
Going with the flow!!

Mattjono88

Just done another quick test.

It went to the 85th bet so using that progression i suggested would of busted.


(Typical roulette... Had a double win but then went on a run over 100spins with no dozen hitting 4 in a row)
Going with the flow!!

6th-sense

Without going through it all did at any point you restart when in plus 1...and then restart the matrix?...the example sugatip gave is continuous which happens occasionally..you don’t have to keep going just to get the 4 in a row unless pushed to do so...

Mattjono88

Maybe i misunderstood? I thought soon as see 4 dozens in a row (+27 - any losses beforehand) we stop and start again at 1u betting on dozens again to go 4 in a row.

We could just do with finding out how many bets it can go without seeing 4 dozens in a row. Then see if can work out a progression to play.

Maybe this progression.

1u for 25 bets. (-25) min win+2
2u for 22 bets  (-44) min win +3
5u for 22 bets  (-110) min win +1
15u for 24 bets (-360) min win +1

Total loss if goes 93 bets in a row with no win = - 539

Hope you understand.
Going with the flow!!

sentinel3

Quote from: Mattjono88 on Jan 18, 04:10 AM 2018
Maybe i misunderstood? I thought soon as see 4 dozens in a row (+27 - any losses beforehand) we stop and start again at 1u betting on dozens again to go 4 in a row.

We could just do with finding out how many bets it can go without seeing 4 dozens in a row. Then see if can work out a progression to play.

Maybe this progression.

1u for 25 bets. (-25) min win+2
2u for 22 bets  (-44) min win +3
5u for 22 bets  (-110) min win +1
15u for 24 bets (-360) min win +1

Total loss if goes 93 bets in a row with no win = - 539

Hope you understand.
There are many ways this three wide matrix can be approached for success.

While monitoring results for matrix vertical 6 even chance. An attractive option has shown itself. I think this is one of the stronger two dozen bets.

You would monitor until you see a streak of three of the same dozen like the example below.

333
331
322---DOZ3 3 deep

You then bet against this going 6 deep. From the 65 sessions I have recorded for MV6 there have been 122 qualifiers. And only one made it to 6. So in a 122 plays youve lost 26 units once against my results.

And thats including sample of 221 numbers. Played in a snipe and shut down fashsion. Who knows how long you might avoid this.

3
3
3
3
3
3

I feel this has more strength than other double dozen systems on the forum like CODE 4 which requires a risky 80 units to play properly.

You could either play this for two games. Then close it down and start elsewhere. Or set the trigger at 4 deep after your first two wins and play on for another 2 games with this as the trigger

3
3
3
3

Then it would take this to defeat you

3
3
3
3
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3

I like this idea alot. 122/1 so far is looking very appealing.

6th-sense

Sounds great..how is the even chances going

Mattjono88

Hi sentinel so your saying wait for any dozen or column to hit 3 times in a row then bet for it to break its run.
Using 1-1, 3-3, 9-9 prog.

Lose 26units if see 6 dozens or colums in a row.

So need 27 wins per 1 loss to be in profit.

But surly we need it to be around 50 wins to 1 loss to make it worthwhile.

Thanks
Going with the flow!!

sugtips

Quote from: Mattjono88 on Jan 18, 01:50 PM 2018Hi sentinel so your saying wait for any dozen or column to hit 3 times in a row then bet for it to break its run.

He mean using vertical matrix
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