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[Nimo]

Wasn't sure I wanted to post this, but I want to help, or maybe see if this can be improved in anyway.

To all the math guys, yes I know the odds, yes I know progressions don't work in the long run, yes, blah blah blah.  Each time I double my bankroll, I consider it a victory.  Each time my bankroll grows past the top step in my progression it is another victory.  Having said that the bet selection tends to go into my favour time and time again.  So math guys please don't tell me I won't make any money or I will lose it all in the long run.  I withdrew a sizable chunk of change this week playing this, so until that stops I will keep withdrawing.

You can use a modified labby of 1111,2222,3333,4444, etc plus one on a loss, drop a section of numbers on a win until new high.  It's safest progression but takes forever.

Here is the progression that I use, it's for 8 numbers.  You need a larger bankroll if you are playing $1 bets, but you can start with 1 cent tables if your casino has them and move up as bankroll grows. 

1,1,1,1,2,2,3,4,5,6,8,10,13,17,22,28,36,46,59,76,98,126,162,208.  That is 24 steps.  (7480 units)  I actually have the progresssion up to 29 steps as my betting limit at my casino  will cater that.  However in testing with real money with help from Eddy,  progression has hit step 21. 

It's pretty basic system based on an older post I had on here about partners.  The way I had the system before was to wait for the partner to show up, now I just bet on the repeating sections.  Thank you to Turbo for the repeat angle of looking at things. 

The 6 numbers (6,15,24,33) usually show up with the 9 numbers (9,18,27,36)
The 4 numbers (4,13,22,31) usually show up with the 7 numbers (7,16,25,34)
The 3 numbers (3, 12, 21, 30) usually show up with the 8 numbers (8, 17,26,35)
The 2 numbers (2,11, 20,29) usually show up with the 5 numbers (5,14,23,32)
The 1 numbers (1, 10, 19, 28) Usually show up with the zero numbers (0, 11, 20 30)

I write down the sections, 1-2-3-4-6, as the numbers in their sections show up, I place a tick beside the number section, once a section is in the lead I bet on that section with progression.  If it stays in the lead, I keep betting on it, if another section takes over the lead, then I bet on that section, If the sections are equal I don't bet until a section goes into the lead again.  ( again thanks to Turbo for the racehorse analogy) The progression I have set up sets up for a profit at each level so once I get a hit, I will profit and start at beginning of progression.  I track the sections until the first section to have 25 hits is done and the game is over.  The odds of getting 8 random numbers to hit in 100 spins is 21 times, the hottest section usually hits around 25 times within a 100 spins, giving me charts like these.

Conversely, if you don't want to track, just play the last section hit with progression, you will get steeper drawdowns, but they recover quickly.  This way of play I have on roulette simulator under Nickmo.

Thanks to Eddy for helping me test it.

[ignatus]

Well, that's good, perhaps in most cases, BUT then, no-one can invent a progression than can cover 'extreme' situations, but it's not uncommon than a DOZEN sleep 20 times, 8 numbers? well, 24 steps is too short imo, and also the BR is too great to cover all steps? Therefore you *could* try a less agressive progression, this is what i mentioned 'the dynamic fibonaci progression' that was really invented by winkel, it goes like (8 numbers) -->cycle 4 spins, therefore use fibo. numbers and +1 step in the ladder for each 4 losses in a row, and -1 step for each win (or -2-3 steps if you're close to reaching a new high) Reset progression when reached a new high.

1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2
3 3 3 3
5 5 5 5
8 8 8 8
13 13 13 13
21 21 21 21
34 34 34 34
55 55 55 55
89 89 89 89
....etc THAT also require a very large BR, but in most cases the progression Won't go that far, (only in extreme cases)
Therefore, to play with a Set *Stoploss & Wingoal* is essential playin with any kind of progression,

Hope that could be helpful.

[jekhb76]

Wasn't sure I wanted to post this, but I want to help, or maybe see if this can be improved in anyway.

To all the math guys, yes I know the odds, yes I know progressions don't work in the long run, yes, blah blah blah.  Each time I double my bankroll, I consider it a victory.  Each time my bankroll grows past the top step in my progression it is another victory.  Having said that the bet selection tends to go into my favour time and time again.  So math guys please don't tell me I won't make any money or I will lose it all in the long run.  I withdrew a sizable chunk of change this week playing this, so until that stops I will keep withdrawing.

You can use a modified labby of 1111,2222,3333,4444, etc plus one on a loss, drop a section of numbers on a win until new high.  It's safest progression but takes forever.

Here is the progression that I use, it's for 8 numbers.  You need a larger bankroll if you are playing $1 bets, but you can start with 1 cent tables if your casino has them and move up as bankroll grows. 

1,1,1,1,2,2,3,4,5,6,8,10,13,17,22,28,36,46,59,76,98,126,162,208.  That is 24 steps.  (7480 units)  I actually have the progresssion up to 29 steps as my betting limit at my casino  will cater that.  However in testing with real money with help from Eddy,  progression has hit step 21. 

It's pretty basic system based on an older post I had on here about partners.  The way I had the system before was to wait for the partner to show up, now I just bet on the repeating sections.  Thank you to Turbo for the repeat angle of looking at things. 

The 6 numbers (6,15,24,33) usually show up with the 9 numbers (9,18,27,36)
The 4 numbers (4,13,22,31) usually show up with the 7 numbers (7,16,25,34)
The 3 numbers (3, 12, 21, 30) usually show up with the 8 numbers (8, 17,26,35)
The 2 numbers (2,11, 20,29) usually show up with the 5 numbers (5,14,23,32)
The 1 numbers (1, 10, 19, 28) Usually show up with the zero numbers (0, 11, 20 30)

I write down the sections, 1-2-3-4-6, as the numbers in their sections show up, I place a tick beside the number section, once a section is in the lead I bet on that section with progression.  If it stays in the lead, I keep betting on it, if another section takes over the lead, then I bet on that section, If the sections are equal I don't bet until a section goes into the lead again.  ( again thanks to Turbo for the racehorse analogy) The progression I have set up sets up for a profit at each level so once I get a hit, I will profit and start at beginning of progression.  I track the sections until the first section to have 25 hits is done and the game is over.  The odds of getting 8 random numbers to hit in 100 spins is 21 times, the hottest section usually hits around 25 times within a 100 spins, giving me charts like these.

Conversely, if you don't want to track, just play the last section hit with progression, you will get steeper drawdowns, but they recover quickly.  This way of play I have on roulette simulator under Nickmo.

Thanks to Eddy for helping me test it.

You are very welcome my friend, glad i could be of assistance.
It's a very strong System indeed. What People don't understand is that this isn't a normal 8 number betting System that can reach +30 spins before a hit. But that it is a Dynamic System, where the 8 numbers Keep changing All the Time. I think this System can get even better if we somehow can adjust the progression, but that's for later concern. I like to congratulate you with this great System.

[nottophammer]

highest step in Prog 9

The only part that raises concern is like you say had to use 21st step of prog, you can see that the more a section hits, like here section 2 was 11 wins infront of the next nearest section, so if the current section goes dead, how long before another section catches up, would the prog get caught

[nottophammer]

Back later

[Ross]

Consider risk v reward.
Is the risk of losing commensurate with the possible reward?

I'm averse to methods where risk/reward don't add up.

Meanwhile my Clusters programme continues to produce
results which I can only describe as amazing.  So for me
there's no need to look further.

In fact I'm a bit disappointed at its success.  What am I
going to do now?  Must have some ideas to programme.

Any suggestions?

[nottophammer]

Hi Nimo, 2nd go and it's 







This is the worry part, but the answer should be stop at +128, but carried on now +256. But you can see section 2 is pulling away, if it goes dead how long would betting go on for ? if unlucky it might be 23 spins.
IT could get to 1,3,4,6 all on 7 hits 22 spins and 23rd spin 2 sections would be level, would this be why you got to step 21

I would like to find some way of not getting to this situation, but it does look good.

[nottophammer]

[nottophammer]

The above 34 spins

[Nimo]

The way the numbers are laid out, it works well as a column repeating system too.

[SamNL]

I write down the sections, 1-2-3-4-6, as the numbers in their sections show up, I place a tick beside the number section, once a section is in the lead I bet on that section with progression.

So let's say a number from the 9 section hits, would you add that to the 6 section?  Because the 6 section usually shows up after the 9 section.

[Roulettebeater]

Well, that's good, perhaps in most cases, BUT then, no-one can invent a progression than can cover 'extreme' situations, but it's not uncommon than a DOZEN sleep 20 times, 8 numbers? well, 24 steps is too short imo, and also the BR is too great to cover all steps? Therefore you *could* try a less agressive progression, this is what i mentioned 'the dynamic fibonaci progression' that was really invented by winkel, it goes like (8 numbers) -->cycle 4 spins, therefore use fibo. numbers and +1 step in the ladder for each 4 losses in a row, and -1 step for each win (or -2-3 steps if you're close to reaching a new high) Reset progression when reached a new high.

1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2
3 3 3 3
5 5 5 5
8 8 8 8
13 13 13 13
21 21 21 21
34 34 34 34
55 55 55 55
89 89 89 89
....etc THAT also require a very large BR, but in most cases the progression Won't go that far, (only in extreme cases)
Therefore, to play with a Set *Stoploss & Wingoal* is essential playin with any kind of progression,

Hope that could be helpful.

Hi ignatus
You wrote down the progression but you forgot to mention how we should use it, how do you go through the diffrent levels in this progression ?

Thx

[Nimo]

So let's say a number from the 9 section hits, would you add that to the 6 section?  Because the 6 section usually shows up after the 9 section.

Yes the 6 and 9 are a section together.  I just wrote them down as 1-2-3-4-6 as its the lowest number per section, you could do it a-b-c-d-e or whatever works for you.

[MrG]

Hi Nimo,

what if number 11 hits. This number is in groups 2 numbers and also zero numbers. Do you add tick to both groups 2 numbers and 1 numbers (that create a section with zero numbers)?

[Nimo]

Hi Nimo,

what if number 11 hits. This number is in groups 2 numbers and also zero numbers. Do you add tick to both groups 2 numbers and 1 numbers (that create a section with zero numbers)?

I put in the main base section, an 11 is a two, there is a 30 in the zero, but that would go to the threes etc.