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## 37 back to basics

Started by 6th-sense, Jun 09, 02:29 PM 2018

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#### 6th-sense

this one will show a bit more clearer or not...

#### Herbyx

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 23, 04:46 PM 2023Youre overthinking! *Mutual friends *

If I'm your friend then you are my friend.

Friends and strangers is a very specific example for "intransitive sets".

If A is friend of B and B is friend of C doesn't mean that A is friend of C.

Would you say this is also "overthinking", so this fact you don't mean by "friends and strangers" ?

#### Blueprint

Why are some in the Lo/Hi columns... that's what I'm asking about. Why are some called out and how does that related to the number of lo/hi below

#### MoneyT101

Quote from: TRD on Apr 23, 06:30 PM 2023"Yes for me Y are just recent numbers N are numbers that haven't shown."

Not good enough, yet .. for me.

YN+YY are diametrically opposite, first off = never a number in one group that might be found in another.
Second off, most importantly, these are combinations of main+derived streams .. so how would you envision the derived at one level, & then combine both on another = get all qualified placings?

You guys just read what I say and don't really read what I'm saying to you!

You are all stuck on the same step!

You just answered what you were looking for btw.

Quote from: 6th-sense on Apr 24, 01:18 PM 2023thought it was self explanatory..

Exactly! They want things to be explained that are obvious.  Then ask questions with the answers in the question
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### 6th-sense

Quote from: Blueprint on Apr 24, 07:54 PM 2023Why are some in the Lo/Hi columns... that's what I'm asking about. Why are some called out and how does that related to the number of lo/hi below

self explanotory if you could actually open and use the application....

#### TRD

QuoteYou just answered what you were looking for btw.

Nope.

One still has to run the tracker, software or pen/paper, to have those two streams .. & thereof get the numbers that qualify out. & the longer the repeat cycle is, the more data is there.

& that gets even more complicated, when you'd have to run two simultaneous & different streams ST+DS, let's not been talk adding a SP or SU. & even more so, when the repeat cycles get out of sync for each district, having multiple defining elements.

What I asked is if you know a way to envision these things, without running a tracker, just like in math there are ingenious shortcuts, such as ways of multiplication that simplify the calculations by reducing the number of steps, simplifying the processing algorithm we are though in school by default, so to say.

I got nothing but a dismissive, trying to to look smart remark, & then even an attempt at the belittling type of comment.

On the point of not asking you anything at all anymore ...

Do you have something constructive to say, or are you just wasting ink .. do you even understand the question!? -- as what's obvious & clearly written, ain't the solution.

If not, just say so -- "I ain't answering that",or "I don't know, I have no idea" .. & that's all fine.

Let's try this again:

As you can see in the YN-tracker, first there's a section dealing with main+derived streams, then basic YN groups, & then as the derivation of that only YN+YY gets known.

Running multiple districts of main+derived is complicated enough alone to just keep track of all of it in the mind, or reconstruct after each spin given that the bet has to be placed to timely; now there's two extra steps on top of that to get to YY+YN.

I asked you a simple question; if you know how how to simplify the algorithm so that the whole thing can be envisioned & run in the mind only, & quickly!

Given that other cognitive tracks have to be kept in the mind, such as balance, locus within the system  flowchart, decisions to be taken from various routes of execution options, etc.

I, so far, despite attempting to achieve this on multiple occasions through time, still haven't figured out the way.

It ain't that simple, apparently, either .. as everyone except you us still using trackers.

Which, btw, I find very limiting & not profit-optimized, when I look at DS-distruct --- this has 11 ds areas, & tracker only 6. Sometimes DS 4-9 hits like crazy, & based on tracker betting DS1-6 or DS7-12, would simply miss on a lot of close by, if not consecutive hits = the runs of the DS defining element. The tracker even on DS would have to run on the basis of ST, & then based on what got out, ;cement' the DS types within each & every repeat cycle.

Just a comment & observation I suggested to a few guys already in private, & a drawback thing persisting onwards in your software for more than a decade since RRBB posted an example.

#### TRD

Mel, doesn't seem so obvious to me.

Perhaps its my fault, as I express myself in a way that makes sense to me, & frankly a lot of people find it a bit old, if not weird .. but on this point, I couldn't be any clearer, I think.

#### RayManZ

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 24, 07:58 PM 2023You are all stuck on the same step!

I think so too. But i don't know where to look for the right information to solve the problem because of the information overload.

It's must be something really simple and obvious, but it still goes over all of our heads. Funny how that works. I remember in the past Falkor kept making everything complicated to and kept hijacking topic and clutter it with useless information.

For someone like me who doesn't fully understand what intel is good and what intel is useless it's really hard to get a grip and keep asking stupid questions.

I think that even if you spell it out people would make something else of it and clutter it again with useless questions and intel.

It anoys the shit out of me. On top of that english isnt my native tong so it's even harder to understand.

#### MoneyT101

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 20, 11:10 PM 2023There are a couple of reasons for this problem.  But it all comes down to what you understand from what someone shared.

Looking at all the data blinds you and also you miss key points and adjustments to be made.   You can manipulate the data however you like.  No rules remember!

Can I change the way I see the info to make sure when this happens I get a result I want always.

Quote from: MoneyT101 on Apr 23, 04:44 PM 2023Also Keep in mind ideas shared in the forum don't really work as shared.  The idea is shared but they are applied a little different most of the time. But you get the idea on how to use it.  You need to figure out how to apply it and that's why you need to think.

Once again you are all stuck on the same step.  Your application of what you are trying to do is wrong. You aren't doing it wrong just that you are applying  it wrong so it won't work.

The information on how to apply was already shared in the forum multiple times. Above I quoted to you with clues that you need to take things in a step by step manner to figure it out. The only way is to sit there and go through slowly and think.

My point about the YN idea.. stop being closed minded. Maybe just maybe I applied it a little different can't you see that!

Everything was thought up and created based on what happens.

What happens more? Where numbers come from? How to take advantage of most of the situations overall?  One thing can't work for all! But it can still be used to where all don't affect you!
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### Blueprint

This is one big circle jerk... what a mess.

#### Darcy_Moore

MoneyT101

You really need to stop with all this nonsense. You are feeding other players info that is no better than the numbers board displayed in the casinos. If you are not increasing accuracy of your predictions with a method Steve has listed on his sites then you are just placing random bets ....The wheel has no memory of sequences of numbers because each spin is an independent event therefor each spin needs to be predicted independently to change the edge of the game.

#### MoneyT101

Quote from: Darcy_Moore on Apr 26, 10:01 PM 2023MoneyT101

You really need to stop with all this nonsense. You are feeding other players info that is no better than the numbers board displayed in the casinos.

I'm tired of all the nonsense as well!  Thank you I will take your advice.

Let's all get roullette computers
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### Herbyx

Quote from: Darcy_Moore on Apr 26, 10:01 PM 2023The wheel has no memory of sequences of numbers because each spin is an independent event therefor each spin needs to be predicted independently to change the edge of the game.

Open up your own topic, show us the differential equations and the solutions.
You can't I guess.

#### MoneyT101

If we have a cycle of 3 unique numbers.  Meaning the 4th number is a repeat.

Example 1231 or 6323 or 32, 5, 11, 11

Now even tho it's a 3 number cycle.  It doesn't mean we have to follow this rule!  We can end the cycle on whatever spin we want!

We are in control of the rules we set to create a strategy.  So you can manipulate the information however you want to get the results you need!

Will that info help you, maybe/maybe not. But the point I try to make is that we have no rules only the ones we create.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

#### MoneyT101

Now go back to the facts you noticed...

Repeats happen from recent numbers.  Most repeats happen before HALF show up over 70% of the time.

How can you manipulate the info to get results you want.

What result do you want?  This is really the question you need to answer.  If you don't know what you are looking for; then how do you find it.

Look at the data and see what happens and then ask yourself, what would you like to happen?  Then see if you can force that to happen with things you've learned.

Manipulate the info to get what you want. No rules remember!

This is the simplest route and trust me you will still get to the same end point with pigeons and erdos and friends and strangers.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

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