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Beating the even money

Started by Winner, Jan 23, 10:45 AM 2019

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jono1167

Quote from: Winner on Feb 10, 05:31 PM 2019
Here’s some more .
211112122112211212+2
222211202221022202221-2
2201122221222121122+3
111221112222222122+6
Profit +6

Thanks Winner - you've shared a hell of a lot.

More steady progress with the above figures..... racking up more profit.

I'l try and complete some more tests but I'm back at work, maybe lunchtime.....

jono1167

Winner, I decided to carry on testing the mini-labouchere betting system. Your betting method obviously works. However, I want to put this method under a bit of pressure and see if it holds up. May as well try and  break it in testing.....

2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2 (+15)
RUNS - 10 / CHOPS - 7

2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2 (+8)
RUNS - 9 / CHOPS - 13

2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1,  2, 2, 2 (+20)
RUNS - 15 / CHOPS - 8

1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1 (-33)
RUNS - 6 / CHOPS - 12

2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2 (+15)
RUNS - 13 / CHOPS - 10

Notice the 4th sequence. A loss consisting  of 6 RUNS and 12 CHOPS (-33). Not the best result, but I’m glad it happened in testing. It really hit the ropes with a run of 7 straight CHOPS. I decided to quit at the 18th spin.

There is definitely an argument for a stop-loss of -25 units. Moving forward that’s what I will do. Set the stop-loss for -25.

Winner, how would your betting strategy have handled this losing string (1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1)?  I think it would have done much better.

Winner

Quote from: jono1167 on Feb 11, 06:16 AM 2019
Winner, I decided to carry on testing the mini-labouchere betting system. Your betting method obviously works. However, I want to put this method under a bit of pressure and see if it holds up. May as well try and  break it in testing.....

2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2 (+15)
RUNS - 10 / CHOPS - 7

2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2 (+8)
RUNS - 9 / CHOPS - 13

2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1,  2, 2, 2 (+20)
RUNS - 15 / CHOPS - 8

1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1 (-33)
RUNS - 6 / CHOPS - 12

2, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2 (+15)
RUNS - 13 / CHOPS - 10

Notice the 4th sequence. A loss consisting  of 6 RUNS and 12 CHOPS (-33). Not the best result, but I’m glad it happened in testing. It really hit the ropes with a run of 7 straight CHOPS. I decided to quit at the 18th spin.

There is definitely an argument for a stop-loss of -25 units. Moving forward that’s what I will do. Set the stop-loss for -25.

Winner, how would your betting strategy have handled this losing string (1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1)?  I think it would have done much better.



I see you extend some on the result longer the 18 series but it really doesn’t matter.
Jono s results
1st game +15 winners results +3
2nd game+8 winners results-1
3rd game+20winnersresults+1
4th game-33 winners results-1
5th game +15winners  results-2

5 games total profit -2

As you can see you made more but your progression was higher.
My progression went as high as 2 units .
There were many times I was in profit and stop .
But I don’t believe in stop loss only stop win.


Winner

Jono there were 3 switches in the 5 games you presented the long run and the long chops
It’s these long strings is were my game has an advantage I know when to switch from runs to chops and from chops to runs . The key is to find the right strings to make a switch and then you have it .

Winner

I would like to see more guys throw results at me . Now this would be a good challenge .

Winner

Here I’ll do my own challenge . This was a challenge but i tamed random once again.lol
22211112101012221211 -1
212221220121212121  -2
122121120222001212211= -2 6th step progression only seen this twice in 30000 spins
20111201012122221221=+2
121111222221112222=+4 ended in profit not  huge but still won

Winner

Headed to casino with my VB friend will see who comes out ahead.lol

The General

Quote from: Winner on Feb 11, 12:01 PM 2019
Headed to casino with my VB friend will see who comes out ahead.lol

Are you playing on a live wheel or a machine?
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

Sparks

Quote from: Winner on Feb 11, 07:58 AM 2019
I would like to see more guys throw results at me . Now this would be a good challenge .

Here you go Winner, 30,000 results for you to see what your profit would be.

if you want me to set this up in Excel so it does it automatically let me know  ;)

jono1167

Quote from: Winner on Feb 11, 07:33 AM 2019


I see you extend some on the result longer the 18 series but it really doesn’t matter.
Jono s results
1st game +15 winners results +3
2nd game+8 winners results-1
3rd game+20winnersresults+1
4th game-33 winners results-1
5th game +15winners  results-2

5 games total profit -2

As you can see you made more but your progression was higher.
My progression went as high as 2 units .
There were many times I was in profit and stop .
But I don’t believe in stop loss only stop win.

Winner, you turned my 4th game from a loss of -33, into a  loss of just 1. I’ll take that any day.....!

I’ll keep testing. Let us know how you go at the casino.

Winner


Winner

Quote from: Sparks on Feb 11, 12:24 PM 2019
Here you go Winner, 30,000 results for you to see what your profit would be.

if you want me to set this up in Excel so it does it automatically let me know  ;)
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I would need zeros to make it realistic.
Thanks

Winner

Quote from: jono1167 on Feb 11, 01:39 PM 2019
Winner, you turned my 4th game from a loss of -33, into a  loss of just 1. I’ll take that any day.....!

I’ll keep testing. Let us know how you go at the casino.
My casino trip was good helped my VB buddy out he still gambling ,plays way to many numbers .im pretty decent at vb although get bored waiting for people to get paid out.called out a couple of numbers that I saw hit twice made his money back .
My system had zero problems.


Yes -33 I got -1 the system tames random

Winner

Casino result
211222211222122111=0
121222112221211111=+2
22122222212210112=-2
111211222222222212=+7
Total profit +7 highest bet 2 units

Sparks

No problem Winner, I'll re-do the file with the 0s included tomorrow for you

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