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Does random have limits?

Started by MoneyT101, Feb 11, 02:23 AM 2019

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buffalowizard

I'm not understanding. Whats the difference between rows and just having a single long line of 15?

1 2 3 1 2
1 2 3 1 2
1 2 3 1 2

Or

1
2
3
1
2
1
2
3
1
2
1
2
3
1
2

Same difference or is there something magical about the rows or "matrix"?
Is Fender back or something

buffalowizard

Lastly, it is of course possible for them to not repeat. I just ran through 6 sets of 15 and a couple of times they only repeated near the end of the last row...you don't think if I did it another thousand times it wouldn't bust?

Everything can be figured out in exact percentages in this game. Its beautiful how efficient it all runs. Yep, you'll get a heck of a long run but it'll blow out eventually. Does some math head know the chances of 15 chops on the dozens ?

MoneyT101

Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 11, 07:29 PM 2019
Lastly, it is of course possible for them to not repeat. I just ran through 6 sets of 15 and a couple of times they only repeated near the end of the last row...you don't think if I did it another thousand times it wouldn't bust?

Everything can be figured out in exact percentages in this game. Its beautiful how efficient it all runs. Yep, you'll get a heck of a long run but it'll blow out eventually. Does some math head know the chances of 15 chops on the dozens ?

Your not understanding...

Take 15 spins of dozen outcome and fill in the table a created

1...4...7
2...5...8
3...6...9
Etc

Now he first row contains 1,4,7,10,13 outcomes

On this line there will be atleast a repeat of a dozen.  No way around it unless you get two zeros on the same line.

But what I am saying is by the 15th spin atleast one line will reach a repeat on the dozen.

You will get this same outcome if you take first 5 spins then next 5.  But I labeled it like this for easy viewing.

It’s not about matrices.... give me 15 random spins of dozen sequences you can include the zero if you want or not.

15 random spins
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Firefox

Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 11, 07:29 PM 2019Does some math head know the chances of 15 chops on the dozens ?

15 spins without a repeat or zero would be

1x(24/37)^15 = 0.0015 or 1.5 chances in 1000

Ignoring zero, it would be a little over  2 chances in 1000, or 1 trial in 500 attempts in round terms.

So in 13 hours at the casino, you'd stand a fair chance of seeing it. In fact a 63% chance you'd see it at 40 spins per hour.

ati

I'm not exactly sure what you are showing here, because you are asking the question as if it was mathematically impossible not to see a repeat. It could happen with a lot of zeros, but I agree that it is extremely unlikely.

I also agree that there are many limits in roulette that could be exploited. It's been a while since I studied the infamous "non random" way of playing, but I reread some old threads yesterday and it revived my interest.

Steve

Money, have you ever seen the sequence 32,14,35,9,0,21,2?

It is so rare. Im guessing youll never see it in your lifetime. Why dont you make a betting system of it?
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MoneyT101

Quote from: Steve on Feb 12, 01:51 AM 2019
Money, have you ever seen the sequence 32,14,35,9,0,21,2?

It is so rare. Im guessing youll never see it in your lifetime. Why dont you make a betting system of it?

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

You must think your so funny hahahah

It’s more silly, me looking at you trying to be funny and clueless  :twisted:

With all your math and all your experience hahahah, you have PhD in all of the math department and can’t see something so simple.

So your telling me...

If I play just 1 double street per spin and I win 35% of the time. 

I should be focused and worried about the uneven payout?
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Steve

It's "you're", as in "you are" not too bright.

I wasnt trying to be funny. I was highlighting your really bad understanding.

You've got no idea. It's your problem. But lets just say your right, your the expert. I was wrong.

Happy winnings.
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MoneyT101

Quote from: Steve on Feb 12, 02:58 AM 2019
It's "you're", as in "you are" not too bright.

I wasnt trying to be funny. I was highlighting your really bad understanding.

You've got no idea. It's your problem. But lets just say your right, your the expert. I was wrong.

Happy winnings.

Now I need to use proper spelling and grammar, when you know very well; what was being said lol

Sorry professor 🙏
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

MoneyT101

Quote from: ati on Feb 12, 01:41 AM 2019
I'm not exactly sure what you are showing here, because you are asking the question as if it was mathematically impossible not to see a repeat. It could happen with a lot of zeros, but I agree that it is extremely unlikely.

I also agree that there are many limits in roulette that could be exploited. It's been a while since I studied the infamous "non random" way of playing, but I reread some old threads yesterday and it revived my interest.
The really cool thing is that numbers behave the same way.  There just that!!! Numbers!

The numbers spun by the wheel mean nothing.  They aren’t real!!!!

If you change each number and put a picture of an animal.  It’s the same...

A couple of years ago dyksexlic tried to show the example using word roulette where he change each number to 37 words.

Well it’s the same thing I am saying but for you to get to this point you need to understand the basics. 

And we can’t get past that 🤦‍â™,️
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Firefox

Yeah numbers are just tags/names for pockets it's true. A lot of people don't get past that though. There's Dr Karl with his logarithms and more than one thread I've seen on here where people use numerology principles, adding the digits like 13 31 22 & 4 and calling that the 4 group, which follows another group, which comes with or before it. Really strange stuff.

It would be so much more logical to play on sectors or frequency which at least has some remote chance of a physical bias

Blueprint

Quote from: Firefox on Feb 12, 05:37 AM 2019It would be so much more logical to play on sectors or frequency which at least has some remote chance of a physical bias

I think, perhaps, you have missed the point.  If the numbers are irrelevant, so is a need for anything "physical."

Bigbroben

Quote from: PassionRuleta on Feb 12, 07:37 AM 2019
I have the form that says dyksexlic and always, always what he says is true, it's incredible.

I bet it costs 37u to get a hit on average
Life is hard, and then you die.
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The General

Quote from: PassionRuleta on Feb 12, 07:37 AM 2019
In this if I can talk ... hehehe, because I know well about dyksexlic.
I have the form that says dyksexlic and always, always what he says is true, it's incredible.
It's the only thing I can verify 100% safe.
MoneyT101, do you know what dyksexlic does?
The truth is that it is very difficult for people to really discover what they are doing, it is easy when you know it, but it is difficult to decipher it.
I have it even programmed, although it is not absolutely necessary, it can also be done manually.
regards

PS: I even created my own form of game, different from dyksexlic, but I still do not find the handling of the box completely correct.


PassionRuleta,

Didn't they recently arrest your cult leader?
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Firefox

Quote from: Blueprint on Feb 12, 07:21 AM 2019
I think, perhaps, you have missed the point.  If the numbers are irrelevant, so is a need for anything "physical."

I'm assuming we're trying to find an edge. Can still do that,  even if the pockets are labelled differently with something other than numbers.

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