Random Carpet Ride

[Firefox]

Virtual bets and waiting for runs makes no difference. The wheel has no memory.

An adverse run of 8 now, has the same probability as it did before, no matter what the previous spins were.

However, hypothetical bets and waiting around have one advantage! You are not betting and exposing money to the house edge. You will therefore lose less in the long run, not because you will avoid an adverse run, but because you are betting less frequently.

[Maui13]

Hahaha  our universe is governed by  mathematics 

How can you possibly argue against an absolute proof?

So Math boy - do me a favor. Give me the equation why we have repeats? Come on, universe is governed by maths! So this one should be easy.

You are a disgrace to the human race.

If you cannot answer my first question - take a look in the mirror buddy 

[Maui13]

Virtual bets and waiting for runs makes no difference. The wheel has no memory.

An adverse run of 8 now, has the same probability as it did before, no matter what the previous spins were.

However, hypothetical bets and waiting around have one advantage! You are not betting and exposing money to the house edge. You will therefore lose less in the long run, not because you will avoid an adverse run, but because you are betting less frequently.

I always value your input. You keep it clean, without being rude to people. And that's why I don't mind your answers. Not like the guy before you who is nothing less than a troll to me.

You and I have had this conversation. ( I think )  Btw - I'm going to try and sound smart by pasting some stuff from Wikipedia. 


link:s://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roulette

Now don't waste your time, I'll tell you what I want in this article. The word "repeat" is used only 2 times throughout, and not in the context of repeating numbers.

So I have a simple question - we see the math part clearly in this article, but I want someone who keeps singing the same song, to show me the math where it makes provision for repeats on a roulette wheel. ( mind you, sleepers, non sleepers, uniques etc etc. )

So this is me, drinking tea @ 5am in the morning   -   I cannot understand that there is "no???" math equation that can explain it?

Anyway, I'm not 100% awake so this might not even make sense.    and I actually don't want to take away anything from DownTown who started this post.

Have a good day Firefox, we'll chat again!

[Steve]

Maui, I've given the math for repeats a few times now. It's really not that complicated.

Daring someone to give it, as if were magic and complicated, is a problem. You really need to work on the basics.

[Downtown]

The graph here is of one system on the mat we discarded through poor performance, there are no missed spins through virtual or otherwise no maths involved, though I did try that aspect, purely trying to get one random line to cross another. So for us that don't have a computer in our socks or are mathematical wizards we are left with random and that is what we are trying to achieve, a system that will give us some success on the table and not playing thousands of spins at 0.1 of a unit. If I can walk into the casino play 50 spins and walk out a few hundred up, then that to me is a successful system, if I walk out 10 dollars up I'm still a winner.
I was watching one member here who post consistent wins, as you can get on and watch the play, 32 spins and wins 2 units which goes onto his accumulated total, doesn't show the losses, but which overall makes it look like he's found a magic formula, well try doing that in the real world at $10 a bet, no disrespect intended, we all have our ways.
As I said, no disrespect to anybody but this thread is for Random on the table and the graph is one that didn't work that well but the point about it is trying a new progression that I haven't tried before, I usually tend towards the Fibo, Notto and Mauri the Marty, this run once went to six spins, reason why we discarded it also wins not as frequent, but the new prog pulled it through nicely without the big drawdown, I think it's a good combination of the prog's and is called the stretched martingale, 1,1,3,5,11,21 which seems to suit this system.
Cheers Al

[Let Me Win]

You can expect a repeat once every 37 pairs of numbers. So, with 36 numbers we have 35 pairs of numbers. So, the expected number of repeats is 35/37 = 0.9459.

It's not rocket science it's kindergarten maths.

Let's paste from Wikipedia to show how smart I am!

In the field of psychology, the Dunningâ€"Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people mistakenly assess their cognitive ability as greater than it is. It is related to the cognitive bias of illusory superiority and comes from the inability of people to recognize their lack of ability. Without the self-awareness of metacognition, people cannot objectively evaluate their competence or incompetence.

[Joe]

So Math boy - do me a favor. Give me the equation why we have repeats?

What kind of repeats do you mean? Obviously since there are only 37 possible outcomes then there must be a repeat on the 38th spin, and if you mean the last number hitting again on the next spin, since every number has an equal chance, namely 1/37, it means that the chance of the last number repeating is also 1/37, so there will be a repeat once every 37 spins on average.

[Steve]

Go on "round earth guy", tell us about reality.

[Downtown]

Notto, Mauri
Getting closer, I know it's only 50 spins but flatbet on every spin.

[Downtown]

Played the same way, 50 spins, but with the stretched Marty, obviously total is higher.

[nottophammer]

Dtown and M
The free spin

[Maui13]

11 spins, 10 units - Ciao 

[nottophammer]

11 spins, 10 units - Ciao 

Don't you mean 11'000 spins

[Maui13]

BWHAAHAHA - Notto you silly goat 

[Let Me Win]

But really the joke is on you because you can't grasp or understand that lots of mini sessions (also referred to as hit and run) will always eventually add up exactly the same as one long continuous session.