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Re: Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas
Oct 20, 08:59 AM 2019
You might NEVER see 36 unique numbers - there is a good chance to see 12 streets.
Just not when there's several CL1-3 repeats on the lines during an open street cycle due to dependency and the same phenomenon behind the number repeat, hence the significance of my post about avoiding 12 streets...
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

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Re: Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas
Oct 20, 09:11 AM 2019
Probability of the first repeat of any shown number (in %)

{{1,2.7027},{2,5.25931},{3,7.46254},{4,9.14329},
{5,10.1935},{6,10.5792},{7,10.341},{8,9.58236},
{9,8.44931},{10,7.10453},{11,5.70282},{12,4.3717},
{13,3.2},{14,2.23535},{15,1.48879},{16,0.944243},
{17,0.569417},{18,0.325898},{19,0.176651},{20,0.0904612},
{21,0.0436414},{22,0.0197706},{23,0.00837944},{24,0.00330845},
{25,0.00121086},{26,0.000408421},{27,0.000126093},{28,0.0000353412},{29,8.90354×10-6},{30,1.99147×10-6},{31,3.89324×10-7},
{32,6.51701×10-8},{33,9.08199×10-9},{34,1.01159×10-9},
{35,8.44331×10-11},{36,4.69435×10-12}}
You can round it off to zero because - even if you live to 100 - you won't ever see beyond 25 unique numbers under normal re-tracking rules. Your information is theory; mine is practical. The same can be said for avoiding 12 streets and - soon - avoiding 6 lines.
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Re: Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas
Oct 20, 09:33 AM 2019
I think we can guarantee a win in 5 spins! I am going to run a test today/tomorrow to find out EXACTLY what conditions are needed to guarantee a repeat on the lines within 5 spins. It would mean losing a few chips for a number of cycles - or just watching - and then when the right moment comes you can bet 1000!

I do personally believe something similar to this exist  :thumbsup:
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

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Re: Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas
Oct 20, 10:19 AM 2019
You can round it off to zero because
If there is a probability > 0 the event will happen ( don't know when, but it happens) , maybe not to me but to you.

On board there a 1000 guests, each of them play every day 10 number cycles for one year.
How many see a Number Cyclelength >25 ?
I asure you, you will be one of them ... ( joke)

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Re: Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas
Oct 20, 10:27 AM 2019
I do personally believe something similar to this exist
You believe or you know ?

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Re: Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas
Oct 20, 10:41 AM 2019
You believe or you know ?

No just like I said.  I believe!

I didn’t find the proper way to put it together.  So I created another way to play.
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

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Re: Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas
Oct 20, 10:58 AM 2019
Thanks for answering.
I asked because somebody already formulated here the possible solution to this problem, not too long time ago.
I forgot who, when and what excactly, so maybe I'm wrong.

For the wannabe mathematicians (real mathematicians are not to be found on a roulette board):
No, the probabilities don't change !  :thumbsup:

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Re: Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas
Oct 20, 11:13 AM 2019
It's the same reason why a number cycle closes by spin 25 and we NEVER see 36 unique numbers - now just in microcosm on the lines and streets.

What is that reason falkor2k15?

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Re: Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas
Oct 20, 11:24 AM 2019
What is that reason falkor2k15?
I don't know exactly, but it took me a long time to find out how the dependency works following my "permutation of desolation" topic, so now we know it's mostly the preceding group together with quicker cycle lengths that we can use as a trigger to guarantee the avoidance of deadlocks (at least within our lifetime - and without 999 other players). But that's only half the discovery; the other half is that we get a free booster in avoiding the next deadlock on the next group. In other words: if we get to bet 1000 - we might be able to get 2 similar opportunities after nested parachuting = 3 guaranteed wins in 20 spins.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

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Re: Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas
Oct 20, 11:32 AM 2019
I don't know exactly, but it took me a long time to find out how the dependency works following my "permutation of desolation" topic, so now we know it's mostly the preceding group together with quicker cycle lengths that we can use as a trigger to guarantee the avoidance of deadlocks (at least within our lifetime - and without 999 other players). But that's only half the discovery; the other half is that we get a free booster in avoiding the next deadlock on the next group. In other words: if we get to bet 1000 - we might be able to get 2 similar opportunities after nested parachuting = 3 guaranteed wins in 20 spins.

Thank you for the reply, I’m not sure I 100% understand it all but I appreciate it nonetheless
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Re: Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas
Oct 20, 12:53 PM 2019
No, the probabilities don't change ! 
Well said, my friend.

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Re: Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas
Oct 20, 01:51 PM 2019
The results are now in!!! :) How to use this forum as a live chat...?

I've simulated line cycles over 1 million spins and recorded the results on preceding cycle(s) 1 spin before the line cycle closed. This is as accurate as it gets.

You need to buy Christmas Holiday gifts this year too right?

Stay tuned... copying and pasting into Excel right now innit... I also plan to run this a 2nd time with more information and possibly other custom streams.
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

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Re: Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas
Oct 21, 04:42 AM 2019
results on preceding cycle(s) 1 spin before the line cycle closed
A question for better understanding:
preceding : dozens cycle(s) / high-low cycle(s) !?!

"1 spin before the line cycle closed": you want to prognose the end of the line cycle from the statistics of the quick cycles ?

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Re: Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas
Oct 25, 12:57 PM 2019
The results are now in!!! :) How to use this forum as a live chat...?

I've simulated line cycles over 1 million spins and recorded the results on preceding cycle(s) 1 spin before the line cycle closed. This is as accurate as it gets.

You need to buy Christmas Holiday gifts this year too right?

Stay tuned... copying and pasting into Excel right now innit... I also plan to run this a 2nd time with more information and possibly other custom streams.

Hi,
Anything further you can reveal mate?

 

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