Guys, please chip in, double dozens.

[SWEET]

Guys,
Thanks for your interest in my post.
We could see that in any 300spins or so double dozens bet, long streaks of UP to ten dd and up to five single dozen, MAY HIT, or WILL HIT, or (MUST HIT???)

Since Gizmotron does not very willing to teach for free, then we could discuss among ourselves here, contructive discussion only, (as we already VERY tired of sarcastic and the old stale, -I-told you so-math-fanaticsm here.)..as all my posting here are within math expectation win lose ratio.

What I deduce is that long and short POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE variance, may interchance constantly,
what we need, is a bet selection, that alway hit within math expectation and...(ok, I already heard someone shouting that single may only hit 10 times in 100spins! Well, it not happened, the every day you walk in the casino, and we need to live with that probability that being struck by lightning while crossing the road!)

my point is, how we going to take advantage of that ubiquitous LONG POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE VARIANCE???

how to start and when to stop, and mm?

we may apply Kattila's variance management, where we stop after a certain count of lose hit, and resume after a few hit.

below a limited small sample bet data, which could do educational study research .
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Spielbank Hamburg
Tisch 0001
xxxx2xxx
Gewinnzahlen;

hit=double dozen hit
L  = LOSE.
zero as lose here
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   = h
  = h
  L
   = h
--------------
  =hit
   =hit
=hit
   L
   = hit
   =hit
   =hit
   L-=
--------------
   =hit
    L
  =hit
   = hit
   =hit
   = hit-
--------------
  L
   =hit
    L=
   = hit
   = hit-
--------------
  = hit
  L
  = hit
= hit
=hit
  = hit-
--------------
  =hit
  =hit
  L
   L=
  = hit
  =hit
  L-
--------------
  L
  L=
  = hit
  =hit
  =hit-
--------------
  L
= hit
   = hit
  = hit
  = hit-
--------------
  L
= hit

  =hit
   = hit-
--------------
  L
  L=
  = hit
   = hit
  L-
--------------
= hit
  L
   = hit
  = hit
   L=
= hit  -
--------------
=hit
   L
L =
  L
= hit
  L-
--------------
=hit
  L
  L
  = hit
  = hit
   L-
--------------
=hit
=hit
  L
   = hit

=hit
  = hit-
--------------
  =hit
L
=hit
   L=
=hit
= hit-
--------------
  = hit
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=hit
   = hit
  =hit
  L
   = hit
  =hit
   =hit
  = hit-
--------------
  = hit
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  L
  = hit
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=hit -
--------------
=hit
  =hit
  L
=hit
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L=
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--------------
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=hit
  L
= hit
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  L=
   =hit-
--------------
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  L
  =hit
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  L=
  =hit-
--------------
= hit
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  =hit
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=hit
   = hit
L
  =hit
   =hit
    = hit
   L-
--------------
   =hit
   =hit
   L
   =hit
   =hit
   =hit
   = hit
--------------
   =hit
   =hit
= hit
= hit

  = hit
   = hit
  L
   = hit
L=
= hit
L-
--------------
L
  L=
   =hit
=hit
=hit-
--------------
L
L=
  = hit
=hit
= hit-
--------------
  L
=hit
=hit
=hit
  L-=
--------------
  L
   =hit
   =hit
L=
=hit-
--------------
   = hit
=hit
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  =hit
L
=hit
=hit
  =hit
  = hit-
--------------

   = hit

  =hit
  L
   L=
  L
  L
   L-
--------------
  =hit
  L
L
=hit
= hit
  L-
--------------
   L
L=
  L
  = hit
  = hit-
--------------
  L
  L=
   L
= hit
   L-
--------------
   =hit

= hit
  =hit
L
  = hit
  L=
  = hit
  L-
--------------
=hit
  = hit
=hit
  L
  =hit
L=
=hit
  = hit-
--------------
  =hit
  =hit
  = hit
  L
  = hit
  =hit
L=
   L-
--------------
L
  L=
   L
L
=hit-
--------------
   = hit
  L
  = hit
  = hit
= hit
  L-=
--------------
  L
  L=
  L
  = hit
  L-
--------------
  = hit
  L
  L=
  = hit
  L
  L-
--------------
   = hit
  =hit
   =hit
  L
L=
= hit
=hit
  L-
--------------
  = hit
  =hit
=hit
  =hit
  L
   L=
=hit
=hit
= hit -
--------------
= hit
=hit
   = hit
  =hit
=hit
  = hit
  = hit
  L
  L=
  =hit
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= hit-
--------------
  L
=hit
  L=
  =hit
  =hit-
--------------

= hit
  =hit
=hit
  L


  =hit
  = hit
  L=
---------------------
  L-

   L=
=hit
L
  =hit
  =hit-
--------------
L
L=
  = hit
  =hit
  =hit-
--------------
  =hit
   L
  L=
=hit
  L
= hit-
--------------
  =hit
= hit
  L
  =hit
  =hit
= hit

any idea of progression or mm?
thanks

[SWEET]

I read somewhere that says,
"we cant guess random, but we could manipulate random, AFTER a tilted side show up... "

[Kattila]

Hi Sweet (BTW),

It s  ok to use the LW strategy to avoid  long LL s streaks and jump in again when W hit, but you need a better
bet selection , something that give you a partial control .  Why to use  the classical dozens when you can create
other *dozens/ 12 numbers*,  maybe better ones.
Random give you random  sequnces like 11323221321222333212, but if... you can have trigger always
this kind of sequences .... 112233112233  or  123123123123....in this cases (most of the times not always) the
position between same group of numbers ( like hit ...121 , that is position 2 between group 1) will change  and
have better chances to win. 

Just example

Street /    pattern(sequence)

7              1
12            1
3              2
8              2
11            3
2              3
12            1
5              1
10            2

Can wait more (.....233) or start to bet the groups in positions 2, 3 and 4 , because
in that sequence (pattern) hit only  positions 1, 5,6 and 7 .
Your first bet will be on groups 113 so groups 1 and 3 , next  on 211  so 1 and 2, so on....
You lose if hit group 2 ( or group 2 /new street) so if lose you put the new street  in same
pattern ....23311............

             

[atlantis]

I like the "Triplet Dozens" in this thread  - but is slower way...

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19250.0

[Roulettebeater]

Does anyone know how long can twodozens sleep ?

[ati]

Yes, as long as random wants them to.

I have run a quick test of 10 million spins, a dozen repeated 17 times in a row twice. That's the same as two dozens sleeping for 17 spins.

[SWEET]

thanks Kattila,Atlantis, Roulettebeater, and Ati.

Kattila, Atlantis,
your  ideas very interesting, need time to grasp them, thanks.
Ati,
its true and proven that single and doubles can sleep very long, thus, we try to "read", the "random of STREAK",
I think, people has researched to death, the streak random behaviour, namely in form of
"single vs series", to their dismay, single series, also behave in random !
Thus we dont guess or predict,
we just *wait and see*, how the streaking play out.
Thus, when double dozen STREAKING, we dont bet, we just wait and see how the streak behave, it may go on for tens of spins, until it exhausted, and then we may see the singles dominated,( of course the dd wont go on forever, the random dictates that math variances must change),thus we risked the change took place, when dd streak sputter...

[Proofreaders2000]

Here's an idea for you, Sweet

Note the non-zero last decision what dozen is it?

Look at the marquee and see what the next
outcome was when that dozen hit previously

So, if another dozen hit previously the last two
times, bet the other two for it to happen a third time.

[SWEET]

thanks Proofreader2000 for your idea.

it is quite similiar to pinwheel of dz.
pinwheel is quite sturdy in math expectation.

[holy roller]

What is the pinwheel method?