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The "Statistical Imbalance" fallacy

Started by falkor2k15, Feb 22, 10:58 AM 2020

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falkor2k15

Looking through some old topics, including those of Kimo Li, there's an often repeated claim about "imbalances" that they can help us predict when an event will occur - or that the wheel has to go from a balanced state to an imbalanced state and vice versa, etc.

I've tested the flow of random in terms of a balanced state vs. an imbalanced state and can confirm all states are totally independent of the previous state, hence does not provide any accuracy of prediction, etc.

"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

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Joe

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Feb 22, 10:58 AM 2020I've tested the flow of random in terms of a balanced state vs. an imbalanced state and can confirm all states are totally independent of the previous state, hence does not provide any accuracy of prediction, etc.

Well, thanks. But you really don't need to do any testing to realize that spins are independent.
Logic. It's always in the way.

carvigno

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Feb 22, 10:58 AM 2020
Looking through some old topics, including those of Kimo Li, there's an often repeated claim about "imbalances" that they can help us predict when an event will occur - or that the wheel has to go from a balanced state to an imbalanced state and vice versa, etc.

I've tested the flow of random in terms of a balanced state vs. an imbalanced state and can confirm all states are totally independent of the previous state, hence does not provide any accuracy of prediction, etc.

OHHH Yesss, In the short term you can profit when imbalace towards certain characteristics of the spun numbers happens. You need to have is a deep knowledge of numbers disposition in the wheel and their distinct characteristics. Then use Kimo Li's matrices to track those characteristics and try a sound strategy to catch those imbalances.

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In another life i used to be Carpanta and was very active round these forums.

Cheers,
Carlos.

Steve

Falkor you'll save time by reading the basics we already know.
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Steve

Quote from: carvigno on Feb 22, 02:30 PM 2020OHHH Yesss, In the short term you can profit when imbalace towards certain characteristics of the spun numbers happens. You need to have is a deep knowledge of numbers disposition in the wheel and their distinct characteristics. Then use Kimo Li's matrices to track those characteristics and try a sound strategy to catch those imbalances.

Nah, thats no different to random bets.
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carvigno

Quote from: Steve on Feb 23, 04:14 AM 2020
Nah, thats no different to random bets.

Let me disagree.

Spins are random, independent from each other. Outcomes, from time to time, produce streaks that can be profitable for those having sharp eyes..
An example:

   Felipe   
32   21   13
0   9   13
11   30   0
20   35   6
28   31   29
6   23   23
20   25   9
24   20   12
5   34   25
17   29   26
1   7   18
18   6   28
18   27   29
19   19   25
8   23   34
10   33   29
25   8   23
27   1   33


Felipe is one of the dealers from a live online roulette site.  These are actuals spins. Matrix 3 spins per raw. Numbers on top starts the session. Last 17 spins present a clear streak and a great imbalance towards certain number. If you bet 9 high odd numbers in last 15 spins or so,  just following the flow, are you placing random bets?
I guess answer is nah.

Certainly there are more streaks inside this matrix but they are not apparent for those who dont know, dominate or understand Kimo Li's GPM.

Cheers,
Carlos

gizmotron2

Quote from: Joe on Feb 22, 12:40 PM 2020
Well, thanks. But you really don't need to do any testing to realize that spins are independent.

I would not gamble if spins weren't independent. Win streaks and losing streaks happen because of randomness and coincidence. If they happened because of an outside force, like cheating, then it would not be safe to wager money.
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falkor2k15

Quote from: carvigno on Feb 23, 07:38 AM 2020
Let me disagree.

Spins are random, independent from each other. Outcomes, from time to time, produce streaks that can be profitable for those having sharp eyes..
An example:

   Felipe   
32   21   13
0   9   13
11   30   0
20   35   6
28   31   29
6   23   23
20   25   9
24   20   12
5   34   25
17   29   26
1   7   18
18   6   28
18   27   29
19   19   25
8   23   34
10   33   29
25   8   23
27   1   33


Felipe is one of the dealers from a live online roulette site.  These are actuals spins. Matrix 3 spins per raw. Numbers on top starts the session. Last 17 spins present a clear streak and a great imbalance towards certain number. If you bet 9 high odd numbers in last 15 spins or so,  just following the flow, are you placing random bets?
I guess answer is nah.

Certainly there are more streaks inside this matrix but they are not apparent for those who dont know, dominate or understand Kimo Li's GPM.

Cheers,
Carlos
Fallacy. As I said each bet you place or each collection of bets you place are independent of the previous:
*spin
*balanced/imbalanced state
*wave
*streak

So there is no "going with the flow" because you can't predict what a streak/wave will do since it's next action(s) are independent of previous action(s).
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

Kimo Li

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Feb 22, 10:58 AM 2020
Looking through some old topics, including those of Kimo Li, there's an often repeated claim about "imbalances" that they can help us predict when an event will occur - or that the wheel has to go from a balanced state to an imbalanced state and vice versa, etc.

I've tested the flow of random in terms of a balanced state vs. an imbalanced state and can confirm all states are totally independent of the previous state, hence does not provide any accuracy of prediction, etc.

Have you read my book?

Kimo Li

Quote from: Steve on Feb 23, 04:12 AM 2020
Falkor you'll save time by reading the basics we already know.

Steve, have you read my book?

falkor2k15

Quote from: Kimo Li on Feb 23, 11:51 AM 2020
Have you read my book?
How expensive is it? Do you have a link?
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

Kimo Li

Quote from: carvigno on Feb 23, 07:38 AM 2020
Let me disagree.

Spins are random, independent from each other. Outcomes, from time to time, produce streaks that can be profitable for those having sharp eyes..
An example:

   Felipe   
32   21   13
0   9   13
11   30   0
20   35   6
28   31   29
6   23   23
20   25   9
24   20   12
5   34   25
17   29   26
1   7   18
18   6   28
18   27   29
19   19   25
8   23   34
10   33   29
25   8   23
27   1   33


Felipe is one of the dealers from a live online roulette site.  These are actuals spins. Matrix 3 spins per raw. Numbers on top starts the session. Last 17 spins present a clear streak and a great imbalance towards certain number. If you bet 9 high odd numbers in last 15 spins or so,  just following the flow, are you placing random bets?
I guess answer is nah.

Certainly there are more streaks inside this matrix but they are not apparent for those who dont know, dominate or understand Kimo Li's GPM.

Cheers,
Carlos

Hello Carlos,

It been years since being active on any forum. I must say. You have a clear observations and understanding how characteristics play an important role in betting predictions. I see you understand as well the importance of knowing the location of each number.

Kimo

Kimo Li

Quote from: falkor2k15 on Feb 23, 11:58 AM 2020
How expensive is it? Do you have a link?

Depends, the cost of a nice breakfast, anywhere from 15.00 to 130.00 (collector's item) on Amazon (don't need to post link), a small price for an eye opening education.


falkor2k15

Quote from: Kimo Li on Feb 23, 12:05 PM 2020
Depends, the cost of a nice breakfast, anywhere from 15.00 to 130.00 (collector's item) on Amazon (don't need to post link), a small price for an eye opening education.
Is it based on physics or mathematics? The reviews look quite mixed...
"Trotity trot, trotity trot, the noughts became overtly hot! Merily, merily, merily, merily, the 2s went gently down the stream..."¸¸.•*¨*•♫♪:

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