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Started by Mister Eko, Mar 07, 06:30 PM 2020

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Kimo Li

Quote from: Steve on Mar 09, 02:58 AM 2020
You can't overcome the house edge with random accuracy bets.

That's a bold statement. I can.

Someone had an idea many years ago. The said the can put a man on the moon, controversial at the time.
They did.

Many examples exist where once were thought impossible.
Open your mind.

Bebediktus3

Quote from: Kimo Li on Mar 09, 06:56 AM 2020That's a bold statement. I can.
Kimo, you sure you know what is an edge, advantage? You also think, that making negative bets you can get positive results?

There are many who claim that 1+1=3, that earth is flat, that few negative bets gave positive result...to claim is possible what we want, but that is only words, nothing more...
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

Joe

Quote from: Kimo Li on Mar 09, 06:56 AM 2020You can't overcome the house edge with random accuracy bets.

That's a bold statement. I can.

'Random accuracy bets' is a rather ambiguous term. I think what Steve means is that you can't overcome the house edge by betting randomly. Is that what you mean, Steve?

Of course, you don't necessarily overcome the house edge by betting non-randomly either. e.g. suppose you're betting streets and always bet the same as the last street which appeared. That's not betting randomly, but it certainly doesn't create an edge in your favor.

If your betting is truly random, then of course you don't have an edge. To overcome the house edge your betting has to have a probability of winning which is higher than implied probability of the odds (payout). ie a payout of 35-1 implies a probability of winning of 1/36.

It follows that you need to find a bet with a probability of 1/36 in order to just break even, meaning that the bet must be non-random and at least one of the numbers you bet on can't be as likely to hit as all the others. If all your numbers have a probability of winning equal to expectation (ie 1/37), then your bet is no better than betting randomly and you'll lose.

So Steve's statement is really just a tautology, like saying 'either you win at roulette or you don't'. It can't be false in any interpretation. So it's absurd for Kimo to claim that he can overcome the house edge with 'random accuracy bets'. He's just digging a deeper hole for himself by demonstrating how clueless he is.

He says : 'open your mind to the possibility that 1 + 1 = 3'  ;D
Logic. It's always in the way.

Joe

Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Mar 09, 08:12 AM 2020Kimo, you sure you know what is an edge, advantage?

He clearly doesn't. Like in one your previous posts he had to ask you what 3SD meant. He may have an education, but it's certainly not in a STEM field.
Logic. It's always in the way.

Mister Eko

Guys, it seems you continue in my topic the same shit what you are doing in "statistical inbalance fallacy" topic, arguing with each other who has bigger dikk.

Maybe kimo doesnt know that he bets randomly. He has an edge so these are not random bets. Are you playing randomly or based or based on wheel frequancy, vb?

Bebediktus3

Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 08:53 AM 2020Guys, it seems you continue in my topic the same shit
Oh no, Mister, we simply when he says that sun is rising in the west, notice, that he is not right, that such is not possible...that is all what we do, no matter that you that very not like...
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

Bebediktus3

Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 08:53 AM 2020Are you playing randomly or based or based on wheel frequancy, vb?
How we play have no relationship with matter about what talk is. Are some elementary logic and if we will claim that 1+1=3, that will not give benefit for anybody. Some thinkings are simply wrong. Why write wrong things, wrong mindes?
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

Mister Eko

Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Mar 09, 09:09 AM 2020
How we play have no relationship with matter about what talk is. Are some elementary logic and if we will claim that 1+1=3, that will not give benefit for anybody. Some thinkings are simply wrong. Why write wrong things, wrong mindes?

In this world you cant know what is wrong what is right, which thinks are wrong and which are right. These are just opinions.
And it is not 1+1=3.

Bebediktus3

Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 09:20 AM 2020In this world you cant know what is wrong what is right, which thinks are wrong and which are right.
Strange thinking. We have some aim and we see if what we do let us be more near to it or the opposite. So how I can't know what is good what is bad?
I think here all understand all, simply are a group of peoples which have another aim, than players :). And they try from all forces, that as many peoples will not understand the right things...

And they put all forces that to prevent to open eyes ...
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

Joe

Quote from: Bebediktus3 on Mar 09, 09:37 AM 2020In this world you cant know what is wrong what is right, which thinks are wrong and which are right.

Strange thinking.

It's weird isn't it? It seems to be believed, especially by young people who have grown up in a politically correct world obsessed with 'equality', that because 'everyone is entitled to their opinion' it means that all opinions are somehow equally valid. Of course that's nonsense. 

As Douglas Adams said :

“All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated and well supported in logic and argument than others.”

Someone else (I forget who) also said : "You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts".

It's also a dangerous attitude because if there is no right or wrong, but just opinions, then those who gain the most power are not those who come up with the most pertinent facts and arguments, but those who threaten, intimidate, use violence etc. ie any non-rational method of 'persuasion'. That's not a world I want to live in.
Logic. It's always in the way.

Joe

Quote from: Mister Eko on Mar 09, 08:53 AM 2020arguing with each other who has bigger dikk.

Ok, let's settle this once and for all :  I do.
Logic. It's always in the way.

Clf7

Quote from: Kimo Li on Mar 09, 06:56 AM 2020
That's a bold statement. I can.

Someone had an idea many years ago. The said the can put a man on the moon, controversial at the time.
They did.

Many examples exist where once were thought impossible.
Open your mind.

So kimo If you have an Edge,you could play theoretically your method for hours,right?

Bebediktus3

We here not discuss is life on Mars or not, not discuss can man fly by mind force...
We discuss very elementary things, about math things, where all can be counted, or calculated.
Problem is that most who come to roulette in math not know even elementary things which normally pupils pass in school... They understand their problem , but they are lazy to take a book, read, learn...

For them are much more simple to say that are other mathematic, other probabilities, or such things do not exist at all :)
Not try to beat the game, much easier to beat the wheel...
Some peoples very not like, when I say how to win, or why they can't win.

Kimo Li

Quote from: Clf7 on Mar 09, 11:12 AM 2020
So kimo If you have an Edge,you could play theoretically your method for hours,right?

Infinity...

Clf7

Quote from: Kimo Li on Mar 09, 03:10 PM 2020
Infinity...

So why are you playing only few spins to make money and not more to make even more money with a lower Bankroll?

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