2nd Dozen

[Tomla021]

george ive been playing it real time in real casinos in conjunction  with something else i do its been working nicely---i just am tweeking the mm system i want to use with it. . .  will report my play but i wont have anything concrete because i keep an eye on my bankroll as a whole w the combined systems

[GLC]

Tom,

As stated in an earlier post, I like to play a fibonacci progression. 1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21-34 on the 2 dozen bet and double each for the even chance.  The easiest way I have found to play it is to bet on the last even chance.  Every loss and I switch to the other even chance.  That way I can catch any streaks.  I don't change even chances unless I hit the dozen that I don't have any bet on.

The fibo progression is a little aggressive, but it wins quickly.  Even when you hit your stop loss, you can recover relatively fast.  I think a 1-2-3-4-5-6-7etc... up 1 on a loss back 1 on a win is a safe way to play also.  More of a grind, but steadier.

I'm not completely convinced that mild progressions are any better than aggressive ones.  Granted, when you lose an aggressive one, you usually lose a bigger chunk, but you also win bigger hits along the way.

At the end of the day, it's probably just a person's playing style.

By the way, I just ran off a quick +52 units.  When that 6 number line hits for a double win, it wipes out a good number of losses.

I guess there's really no need to post results because I know that this is a very playable system.  If you played it continually for 1000's of spins, I'm sure it would fail to stay ahead, but for short strikes, it can deliver units quickly.

Thanks,

George

[Tomla021]

played it live in ct casino today , worked well im guessing about 15-20 units (remember i spot play it and use it as a tool w something else) used this progression 1,1,2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4 . . . . . . . . . .  never went past 3 , thanks george it def looks like a valuable tool

[GLC]

Tom,

I hope you continue to do well with this easy system.

I just want to run a new twist by you for your consideration when and if you have the time.

Increase our base bets to 3 units on the even chance and 2 units on the 2nd dozen.

This gives us a 1 unit win if the even chance hits by itself.

A 1 unit win if the 2nd dozen hits by itself.

A 7 unit win if both even chance and 2nd dozen hit.

Of course the down side is that we lose 5 units if the unbet dozen or zero hits.

This is a faster paced version which can win rather quickly.

I am using this bet line.  1-1-1-1-2-2-2-2-3-3-3-3-4-4-4-4-5-5-5-5-6-6-6-6-7-7-7-7-8-8-8-8, etc...

The way I play the bet line is for every loss, I move 5 steps down the line.  For every 1 unit win I move 1 step to the left and for every 7 unit win I move 7 steps to the left.

This is a moderate bet line.  A simple recovery line would be 5 bets at each level and a more aggressive line would be 3 bets at each level..

For exceptional safety you could go to 6,7 or more bets at each level.

The 5 steps to the right on a loss always remains constant.

What do you think?


George

[GLC]

Chris,

All joking and sarcasm aside.

I have played 17 sessions with this system in one form or another.
I have won a total of 17 sessions for a total of +434 units.
Not all of them were with the same bet system.
5 of them for +257 units were using the exact system as stated in my last post to Tom re: going to 3 units on the even chance and 2 units on the 2nd dozen.

Also,  Fripper tested this, albeit by betting the 1-18 e.c. and the 2nd dozen only which gave him some serious drawdowns when the 3rd dozen was streaking and he still came out to a positive level on all 4 sessions with a +162 units won overall.

Add to the above credentials, which I admit are far from conclusive, Tom's attesting to the fact that he is playing this system for real dinero and is doing well though he's using it as a hit-n-run along with other systems in his bag of tricks.

So.  Even though I had put it on the back burner for a short while, Tom renewed my interest in it and with the new tweak, I'm very glad he did.

The way I play it is I write out my bet line with about a half inch between each number and I use a mini marshmellow to move around on the line to keep track of what my next bet amount is.  When I reach a new high, I eat the marshmellow as a reward.  I'm going to have to cut that out because I'm putting weight on like water buffalo.

All right, I can't put all joking aside.

Please believe me when I say that I'm

Sincerely Yours,

George

[GLC]

Your hilarious George.

Its 2.45am here in Uk, and I am laughing my azz off.

Well done.

Love you man. nite . X

Sleep well my friend, and when you awaken you'll be able to read that I just finished another 2 sessions.  1st to +52 and the 2nd to +58.  On the last one I was winning so fast I couldn't shut it down fast enough and overshot my win target.

I'm must be in one of the luckiest streaks with a system ever.

George

[GLC]

I was getting so c***y that the roulette gods had to teach me a lesson. 

1 lost session of 200 units.

This can win fast and it can lose fast.  When it starts jumping between the 1st and 3rd dozens opposite the way you are betting, it can chew up units pretty quick using the bet line I've been playing.

I'm still ahead 344 units, so not too discouraged.  All systems win and all systems lose.  Goes with the territory.

Now that I see how my bet line works, I think I'll test a few session using the one Tom uses, 1-1-2-2-3-3-4-4.  This wins well enough when it's hitting the double payoff that even with a safer bet method, it can still win at a good pace.

Keeping my chin up,

George

[GLC]

I have been thinking about this bet and realize that it is another variation on a common bet selection system where you are advised to bet on Red and 2nd column or Black and 3rd column.

If you bet 3 on Red and 2 on the 2nd column, it nets the same wins & losses as this 2nd dozen system.

So really nothing new with this system.  This method of betting has been tested and if played for extended periods, will ultimately fail the same as other fixed type bets like the 3/2 method (3 on Hi or Lo and 2 on the opposite dozen), even Kingspins Lucky Horseshoe is showing that in the long run the losses eat up the wins unless you are one of the really lucky players, but who can bank on that.

As a hit-n-run system, it's not that bad at all, but I would have a small stop loss in case you hit a bad run early.

Good luck Tom,

George

[atlantis]

The way I play it is I write out my bet line with about a half inch between each number and I use a mini marshmellow to move around on the line to keep track of what my next bet amount is.  When I reach a new high, I eat the marshmellow as a reward.  I'm going to have to cut that out because I'm putting weight on like water buffalo.
George

Hi George,

Last night I dreamt I ate a GIANT marshmallow. When I woke up my pillow was gone !
link:://:.youtube.com/watch?v=playnmJB_TI&feature=player_embedded#!

A.

[GLC]

Good one A.

Sorry pal but after I let a few more members enjoy it, I may have to send it to the trash bin since I made that post about keeping our topics to the point to save people having to wade through non-pertinent material.

Cheers Pal,

George

[chrisbis]

U wouldn't dump the mellow would U George?

It'll be the ducks next!

[Tomla021]

back again to the brick and morter casino. . . . another 35-45 units plus i guess as i look at bankroll

[GLC]

Back again to the brick and morter casino. . . . another 35-45 units plus I guess as I look at bankroll

Steady as she goes, Mate.

Best wishes,

George

[Tomla021]

another 12 units today-----

[GLC]

Another 12 units today-----

Norman Squire in his classic on roulette says that to beat the game of roulette, we must all be "hard grafters".  A hard grafter plays 1st and foremost to not lose.  Any chips he picks up along the way make up his wins for the day.  One of a hard grafter's first rules is to never play a system that can wipe you out on a really bad run of luck.

Keep chipping away, my friend.  But be wary, lady luck can sneak up and blind-side you when you least expect it.

LOL,

George