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[TriCycle]

In my time of learning there have been many words that jolt the mind. These words are put there for you to decipher of course, but they lead you to be the one that can or cannot.
Years have gone by and so too many so called friends.
This leads to dispair and, also teaches those of us who deserve what some people call the Holy Grail.
There is the crux which brings us to doing more than we ever did before, without it you will never win.

[praline]

The Holy Grail is within the search itself.
The lesson of doing more then you ever done, will help outside roulette as well. And suddenly you don't need a consistent winner strategy, because self discipline and the willingness to work harder, has done it's work and you have a loved job, a beautiful life and a life time hobby!
I'm glad that I was so fortunate to register on this forum in 2015, and witnessed all those posts and discussions around Priyanka and rrbb.


In the aend if "you cannot.." you can still be a winner.

Have a nice day everybody!

[donik7777]

Nice post Praline!

Any lost may give gain.

How many ppl never know roulette and happy?
And few maybe who have HG in life trouble.
That not panacea. Really who wanted help never posted so many posts, that already saying they have mental problem imo. I know ppl who spent years with help so called HG owners with zero outcome that true. My principle or help or shut up. Look on other forums why they created ...for help each other..just look on other forums.
But we need any hobby what we like. Our choice.

[TriCycle]

If something is isolated by placing a chip as a bet on that position does this change the movements you are working with?
If I were working with movements then a movement of 6 would be a repeat on lines.
Does this mean that I am only working with 5 movements?
If I were to concatenate these movements would I be able to produce more movements?
Would I be able to use series, cross combinations and mixed results to be able to lose apples or pears?

[MoneyT101]

This leads to dispair and, also teaches those of us who deserve what some people call the Holy Grail.
There is the crux which brings us to doing more than we ever did before, without it you will never win.

You reach a point where all hope is lost....

If I were to concatenate these movements would I be able to produce more movements?
Would I be able to use series, cross combinations and mixed results to be able to lose apples or pears?

Yes it can be done but with what goal?the reason I ask; If you concatenate lines it will give you 36 movements.

If you play each as they show not all will be available so you lose some apples/pears but it turns into a waiting game.  Some good cycles and some bad cycles but overall losing long term

Which angle are you looking at it from?

Can you share some more..?

[TriCycle]

If you concatenate them you have two results.
After that you have another two results.
If one were to look at the angles of those two results the movements would increase within the same parameters.

[TriCycle]

Repeats have to happen mostly from 123 within a cycle of six and others, why is this?
Does the actual game have to re-read the pages as if it were an almanac?

[praline]

Hey, guys.
Just entered to post some of my thoughts, and I'm happy that I don't have to start a new topic with my nonsensens as you two have already done it))
However I'm always happy to read and decipher your thoughts and ideas, and thanks to all of you for that.

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Here they are, my raw thoughts written to a friend based on what I witnessed in this years of my roulette journey.


Praline:
Yeah. There were different universes involved. So the invariant is something that always happen independently from initial fruit arrangement: within, at the begining or in the end of fruit cycle.

I vote for "within"

But still we win if we have immediate repeat.

So all possibility must be covered, at least in the way that we loos less.

So, we can bet for repeats, while banking on uniques, sure we can't bet all of them, so we are choosing a subset that we are confortable with, and play according to erdos, ramsey or van der waerden

Seems a generalised version of erdos, and Ramsey, but not PHP. While erdos and Ramsey, van der waerden included go in parallel with what you posted, IN ANY SEQUENCE THERE WILL BE A "SET"",
all those "smart" guys have done is just some exercises with your quote.

PHP is something different, it's more mathematics involved.

Edsgar Dijkstra's notes could lead to more insights, I think. But I never examined those deeply.

However Dijkstra's generalization is mathematically more restrictive and precise.


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[MoneyT101]

I just want to make sure we are on the same page. Let's take double street(ds)for example and double street distance(dsd)

Ds ———————- DSD
4 ————————- 4
1 ————————- 3
2 ————————- 1
3 ————————- 1


We have 2 result streams.  If we concatenate then this means we combine them.

If you concatenate them you have two results.
After that you have another two results.

What do you mean by "after that you have another two results"?

If one were to look at the angles of those two results the movements would increase within the same parameters.

Here I'm guessing you are referencing the two results I asked about above..??

[MoneyT101]

Repeats have to happen mostly from 123 within a cycle of six and others, why is this?
Does the actual game have to re-read the pages as if it were an almanac?

Repeats happen on 123 because they come from the most recent numbers

I'm not sure about the almanac reference but no whatever streams we add or create have no effect on the actual game of roulette itself.

[alexlaf]

If we combine Columns and streets do we have a game off 36 and two streams 

[MoneyT101]

If we combine Columns and streets do we have a game off 36 and two streams 

Yes

[alexlaf]

Ds ———————- DSD
4 ————————- 4
1 ————————- 3
2 ————————- 1
3 ————————- 1

Lets say from Mel example we get the first Line & Distance and combine them:
If a=4 and b=4 we get (4||4) so what !

Same sh*t different year:

[MoneyT101]

so what !

Same sh*t different year:

With that kind of attitude who would want to take their time to show you anything?

No one is entitled to share what they have taken the time to learn.  So it's upto the person if they want to give more detail. 

You don't know what to do so might as well be nice about it.  Giving ppl attitude with the information you need makes them not what to share anything to ungrateful entitled ppl.

So if you don't have a nice way to go about it just stay lurking in the background like everyone else does.

[MoneyT101]

The obvious is 4||4 like you said.  But what you do with the combination is what matters.

Tricycle is suggesting a cross referencing method by adding more streams. With his idea numbers move around so it's not always available to play.  But this version makes it a waiting game for things line up.

What do we know about the HG? No waiting game is involved.

I'm asking questions to see if he shares which angle he is taking because there are a couple ways and possibly some that haven't been thought of yet.