A PROMISING SYSTEM- CHRIS'S RIGHT OF REPLY & ANALYSIS.

[chrisbis]

Lets test the 'Promise' out then eh.
1st test- Fun monkey account, just open 5 minutes ago.

1st screen shot.
Start Balance was $2000
All bets placed as according to the rules set out in James results post.

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Everyone can clearly see the following:-

• Value of play per spin is $0.01 (or multiples of it)
• There are only 8 spin results shown on the Marque
• There were bets on every spin (take my word on it)
• I'm ahead already after the 8 spins +16 units (plus the stake on the felt(0.04)= +20)
• European wheel-single zero

Maybe this system of James, messes with the RNG's internal IT 'mind'?

[chrisbis]

Thought anyone pls?..............

I must give some future consideration to my mate Zero hob goblin at some point.   

I just know James will say "just take it as a loss", and continue, just know it!  

[chrisbis]

2Nd screen shot.

Number of spins since the start=18
Start balance      = $2000.00
Current balance = $2001.60

Current bet started out as 1 chip-1St Doz, 1 chip-2Nd Doz, 2 chips-3Rd Doz

Martingale Progression on Dozen- 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256
Highest progression level=8 (128) (really equates to level 7 since start was 2 chips)

Highest progression value on 3Rd dozen= $1.28 ($1.30 total stake bet with other Doz's)
Highest payout win= $3.84

Still ahead

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Plus 160 units in 18 spins = 8,88 units per spin (quite a rate)  

No Zero hero Green Goblin show yet.

Progression was getting a little concerning, but at this level (0.02/start bet) reasonably safe.

[chrisbis]

3Rd screen shot

Number of spins since start = 39
Start balance       = $2000.00
Current balance = $2002.04

Profit after 39 spins= 204 units = 5.23 units per spin

No real scary progression this time since spin 18

I keep moving the play (dozen with the 2 chips on for the profit motive) long the different dozens.

Here's the 3Rd screen shot after 39 spins.

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And for the sceptics- here's the History of the 39 spins.

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[chrisbis]

I have obviously accelerated this a little (well prob a lot!)
by using a straight Marty progression verses James Marty variant
which was:-
1
1
2
3
4
6
9
14
21
31
47
70
105
158
237
355
533
799
1,199
1,798
2,697
4,046
6,069
9,103
13,655
20,482
30,723
46,085
69,127
103,691

We can now safely assume these are unit values, where 1 could equal $0.01, and therefore
103,691 would equal $1, 036.91 which is not so scary now is it!!

The EC payout from the Dozens (and Columns alike) is 2:1 plus stake returned, so the Marty progression (straight) is not really necessary for this system.

The real uncertain part for me, is why bet on every dozen?

@Albalaha

I can sense Ur un-ease with this play, esp after what happened to U on Ur recent casino trip,
but if the dozen in question is sleeping- just move the bet sequence around the table, even
when in the middle of a building progression.
The choice is in Ur hands. (well under the mouse click!).

[superman]

Hi Chris

Glad to see someone else testing it, I have it in my bot already using his progression as listed in his thread, you stated

"Highest progression level=8 (128) (really equates to level 7 since start was 2 chips)"

Well, sorry to burst the bubble but I have already had 25 sleeps on dozen A (includes 2 zeros) that would have eaten more than your profit! I am getting up to level 10 very very often

Hand testing will give you good profit but after a good few hand sessions a bad one will arrive, keep going see how far you get mate

[chrisbis]

Thanx for reply, but like I said earlier,
if U think a Dozen is sleeping, say after 8 levels on the progression, Y not move the play along and place the progression money (recovery) on a different Dozen?

Can I have a copy of Ur bot please?

Or am I being cheeky!?!?!?!

[Fripper]

The way I understand it is that if a dozen sleeps for 30 spins then we lose the whole progression of 30 steps, am I right?

Even with 0.01$ the bankroll needed is like 2000$ so this isn't something for me.

Cheers

[sekuritati]

Chrisbis,

Do not chase sleeping dosens!!! This is RNG!!

If you are going to play this, at least bet the last spun dozen for a repetition, with such a progression this is bulletproof. Just ask yourself when have you seen 30 spins with chopping dosens - NEVER!

by the way what happened with the mail i sent you, tell me what you think

[chrisbis]

The way I understand it is that if a dozen sleeps for 30 spins then we lose the whole progression of 30 steps, am I right?

Even with 0.01$ the bankroll needed is like 2000$ so this isn't something for me.

Cheers

If Ur daft enough (and Im not being personal here!), but if one is concentrating on just the one Dozen then Yes, But I for one, would never let that sequence occur- I'd move the bugger around the table to another Dozen that's laying Gold Eggs.

Fripper, this may be where the bot for $1200 comes in, maybe its spots the lossing streak,
and moves the Dozen bet around. Maybe its a form of IT !!

In fact now that I think about it, why don't we move the bet around the table of Dozens, at every bet, like this;-

1,1,1   1st bet? ( Y I don't know- but we'll stick with it!)
1,2,1   If wins- then-
2,1,1   If wins- then-
1,1,2

Now if we have a loss running streak, then:-

1,1,1
1,2,1   If loss- then-
4,1,1   that's on a Marty- we can talk progression later, once the betting sequence idea is ok.
1,1,8   If still losing, then-
1,16,1
1,1,32
64,1,1
1,1,128

and so on, and so on.

Do U get it?

[chrisbis]

@ sekuritati

I will do. 

And yes Ur right.

Read my last post and critique it for me and the benefit of the east of the forum.

[superman]

why not move the play along and place the progression money (recovery) on a different Dozen?

Which one would you pick?

Can I have a copy of your bot please?

ROFLMAO

Ps, pointless really as it isnt a working system yet.

[chrisbis]

Which one would you pick?

The one that has hit less than the biggest hitter. 

IE.
In that scenario,
we have one sleeping
we have hit  most
we have one hit second most (or second least- which ever way U want to put it)

IMHO i think, the movement of the "big money" (so2speak) would wake the RNG up instantly.
......
and if playing Airball/slingshot, will negate the problem encountered by sekuritati & Albalaha in recent times.

I've never played on the dozens before, so this is new territory to me.

Could be a new learning Zone for all who want to study DOZENS.

ROFLMAO

Ps, pointless really as it isnt a working system yet.

Just a peek then? 

[chrisbis]

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Why would someone who's chasing after a particular double
which as we all know, pays 2:1 on a spin/hit,
still put 1 chip on each of the other DOZENS?

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In the early part of the system bet, the value of the coverage of the other  Dozens

is realised when the chosen "Big Money" target has missed.

Such as this bet:-
1,1,2 _____________ (1 chip on 1st DOZ, 1 chip on 2ND DOZ, 2 chips on 3rd DOZ)

("Big Money" target is the one DOZEN we are trying to hit)

Total outlay = 4 chips/units

If the target(3rd DOZ) is missed, then either of the other two DOZENS, mop up the

bad egg, clean up the table, and at least return to the BR,
2 chips/units + the stake 1 chip/unit = 3 chips/units in total return to BR,
and hence for a four chip/unit outlay, the BR has only dropped 1 chip/unit on a loss position.

Authors notes- (this may have something to do with protection of BR, and stopping the
slide of BR when using a Robot to play, that is not being supervised!)

This by comparison, to a  usual bet on dozens, is only marginality different.

A single chip placed on 1 of the DOZENS would loose just that- 1 chip/unit.
ROI in a win situation, would have returned total of 3 chips/units.

A double chip (2 chips/units) placed on one of the DOZENS, would loose 2 chips/units,
but the ROI, would have been greater, at 6 chips/units in total returned to the BR.

In our friends 3 DOZENS system, a win on the bet placement of -
1,1,2_____would yield a ROI of 4 chips/units in total due to the "wastage" on the other doz's

I'm struggling to justify the significance of the "Balancing"  bets on the other 2 Doz's, unless
it is something to do with either robots, RNG's or BOTH

HELP!!

Anyone else have a comment whist I try a think some more, I only just got back into this again ?

[albertojonas]

do not waste ur time!