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Beating roulette with math..

Started by Fripper, Dec 31, 09:26 AM 2010

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chrisbis

Level of Labby.
1......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
2......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1
3......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,01,1,1
4......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1
5......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1
6......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1
7......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1
8......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1
9......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1
10....................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1
11....................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1
12....................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

This is the Labouch-er Progression starting with 9 zero's and a single 1. (Losing Streak)

The above table shows how the table would expand, given a bad ass losing streak of
12 straight losses, ie:- Bet on Black and Red resulted 12 times consecutively.

At the end of this losing session (12 spins) U would be down on Ur BR by -12 units.

Fripper

Quote from: chrisbis on Dec 31, 12:33 PM 2010
Level of Labby.
1......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
2......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1
3......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,01,1,1
4......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1
5......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1
6......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1
7......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1
8......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1
9......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1
10....................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1
11....................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1
12....................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

This is the Laboucher Progression starting with 9 zero's and a single 1. (Losing Streak)

The above table shows how the table would expand, given a bad arse losing streak of
12 straight losses, ie:- Bet on Black and Red resulted 12 times consequetively.

At the end of this losing session (12 spins) you would be down on your BR by -12 units.

Chris, that maybe be so. But it isn't how Belgian plays it.

As you can see in the threads :)
All i'm doing is living my life.

chrisbis

Level of Labby
1......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
2,.....................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
3......................0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
4......................0,0,0,0,0,0,1
5......................0,0,0,0,0,1
6......................0,0,0,0,1
7......................0,0,0,1
8......................0,0,1
9......................0,1
10....................1

And here is the same 9 zero's plus 1 unit, on a straight consecutive winning steak.

Full Labouch-er progression completed after 10 spins

Profit at this point after 10 wins, would be up on Ur BR by +20 units.


Is this correct Fripper?

Fripper

labby progression

Start at:
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
If you lose 1unit bet 2 unit

If you lose both of these you get:
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,2

Lets say you win with bet unit 2: You take away last and first numbers, in this case 0 and 2:
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1

And so on..

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Here comes Belgians explanation:

start Labby 0,1

R 1 unit win
B no bet (ending first pair) EOS

R 1 unit win
B no bet EOS

R 1 unit win
R no bet EOS

R 1 unit win
R no bet EOS

B 1 unit loss
B 2 unit loss (ending first pair) Labby now: 0,1,1,2

B 2 units loss
B 4 units loss (ending second pair) Labby now: 0,1,1,2,3,3 (4+2=6:2=3)

R 3 unit win Labby now: 1,1,2,3
R no bet (ending third pair)

B 4 unit loss
B 8 units loss (ending fourth pair) Labby now: 1,1,2,3,6,6

R win 7 units Labby now: 1,2,3,6
R no bet (ending fifth pair)

B 7 unit loss
R 14 units win (end of 6th pair) Labby now: 2,3

R 5 unit win
B no bet (ending seventh pair) all figures canceled in the Labby End of session.

Total session: +5 units.
All i'm doing is living my life.

chrisbis


albalaha

Marcus,
       Can't you put the entire method in "full system" in your own words than showing us links of other forums and lots of 00000 and 1111. Put it in simple language buddy, if you feel this to be a nice system.

Fripper

Quote from: albalaha on Dec 31, 01:08 PM 2010
Marcus,
       Can't you put the entire method in "full system" in your own words than showing us links of other forums and lots of 00000 and 1111. Put it in simple language buddy, if you feel this to be a nice system.


Please, read the threads.

If you do, like I did, you will see that this isn't easy to understand and I myself haven't got it all yet, maybe I'm on a good way, I don't know. You are gonna have to read it more then twice to understand it, atleast I did before I understood something.

Because of this, I won't put it in a new thread. You can ask any questions, and I can maybe answer them for you. I'm just sharing what I found and I find it very interesting and it needs more views.

Your ideas and inputs are welcome here.
All i'm doing is living my life.

VIP

Hello.
I really need to thank Belgian for his very wonderfull idea and hints!

I made my own system based on his idea.

The rare event that I am looking for is in 60 spins to have 18/42 of RED and BLACKS.
You have to admit that this is a VERY rare thing to happen!

I didn t find any permanence like this in the German site(after searching for some hours) of the real roulette spins BUT I invented my own session from hell!  Grin
I also made the wins very spread in those 60 spins in order to be very prepared in the real game to see the maximum BR that i am gonna need.

My winning target is +10 chips (so if I will have at least 18 of 42 I will end up with +10)

I devepoped a special modification of "labby" progression and the Maximum down( - ) inside the hell session was -140 chips...The biggest bet that I had to make was 98 chips in 1 spin.

So the Br needed to win in this hell session is 140 chips....

I really don t know why Belgian needs 1.500 chips?
I guess is because he playes the original labby?

Anyway thanks again....you gave me hopes !

albalaha

Hey Guys,
             Will someone please clarify the system for haven's sake. It is kind of labouchere, I got it but not the standard one. How many chip you start with? what is the difference?

Fripper

Quote from: albalaha on Jan 01, 07:14 AM 2011
Hey Guys,
             Will someone please clarify the system for haven's sake. It is kind of labouchere, I got it but not the standard one. How many chip you start with? what is the difference?


link:://:.x/2010/06/labouchere-progression-in-depth.html
There is the standard one.

Now, instead of start betting 1,2,3 you start with 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1. If you want to, you can choose how many zeroes you want, the more the safer.

The rest can you read about in Belgians posts.

Right now I'm struggling with a session that I found.
All i'm doing is living my life.

VIP

Fripper you don't need to search for sessions...
You can make 1 hell session from urself....it doesn't have any deference.



I am thinking that the only problem with this way of playing would be when in the labby we will be at the final bettings and the Ec does NOT win....then the progression would be like martignale!

chrisbis

@VIP

The secret is that U play the EC's in pairs.

ie. R-R, R-R, R-B, R-B, B-R, B-R, B-B, B-B

I have asked Belgian for clarity on the pairs sequence, whether random, or strict list.

VIP

I saw that he posted something like that,but isn t it a contradiction from his early posts?
In his early posts he said that it doesn't matter where we bet....and that we can bet the same bet all the times...eg on the RED

Fripper

@VIP

Yes, Chris is right. If you look you will find that combining 2 or 3 figures will reduce the losing streaks.
Like this:
BB RB BR BB RR

or 3:
RBR BBR BBB RBB


I like to search for "hell" sessions because in that way I can see how rare it is to happen, I learn something on the way so to speak.

I will attach a 200 spin session with 123 Reds and 77 Blacks. The differens is 46 as you can see. Even this event is rare to happen, I found this after searching over 10000 spins..
But when Bayes will give this a go he will find how often we can expect this rare events.

Play this file and only bet on black.
The start is very hard.
After 35 spins we have, 28 reds and 7 blacks. After that it is very hard to recover. But I will test it with 64 zero's and a one.

Remember, don't use any kind of stoploss. Always end the labby.
All i'm doing is living my life.

Fripper

Quote from: VIP on Jan 01, 11:08 AM 2011
I saw that he posted something like that,but isn t it a contradiction from his early posts?
In his early posts he said that it doesn't matter where we bet....and that we can bet the same bet all the times...e.g. on the RED

Maybe be so Jordan, I don't know. It isn't easy to find out either if we study his posts..

We should test together and fint out the best way.
All i'm doing is living my life.

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