Beating roulette with math..

[VIP]

OK.
The only thing I want all of you to know is that the ORDER of the wins - losses is the factor that can kill this system even if the quantity of the wins are like we want

eg as he says 65/200 or any other ratio

[chrisbis]

Think he was looking at 65/131 Red/Black ratio protection (ie. Black is 66 more spun than Red)

70 more blacks than reds was the ultimate killer.
But I suppose that depends when they show up.?

The other think is, given that the "Killer" game can reach the dizzy heights of 28 of one colour showing as in Frippers example- would U really play that hand, or would U have either waited a while, for the Tsunami to pass, or moved on to some other form of system/method play? ?

[VIP]

""""But I suppose that depends when they show up.?"""

Yes chris this is what i am talking about

[chrisbis]

..............which obviously relates directly to where U the player are in the revised Labby progression.


If Ur well down in the scheme of things,
and lets say U have played 40-50 spins so far,
and the progression has held up reasonably well,
with the imaginary Zero's in toe,
and then the streak run from hell arrives on the 2.30 from Uttoxeter,
on the back of the Horse called- "Where do U want these 20 Reds Then Mister"............ I think U would be "killed" off in the subsequent betting sequence!

I wouldn't go there myself, but I see the logic in studying the process.

[chrisbis]

I believe in the real world situation, faced with this kind of scenario,
U would  obviously go and seek an alternate EC bet,
but that there-in belies the problem,
of other EC's giving equally killer results for the desperate player,
who is trying to recover.

[Fripper]

The other think is, given that the "Killer" game can reach the dizzy heights of 28 of one colour showing as in Frippers example- would you really play that hand, or would you have either waited a while, for the Tsunami to pass, or moved on to some other for of system/method play? ?

Chris

The thing is that we don't know when a bad run will happen. Therefore we have to consider the worst and make our method out of that. You have to expect the worst, like 130/70. You have to be certain that even if your start is very bad you will win in the end of the labby, no matter what.

[albalaha]

Marcus,
         Can You show this method in any sample session? That would help all understand its capability.

[Fripper]

Marcus,
         Can You show this method in any sample session? That would help all understand its capability.

I can, but not right now. Maybe tomorrow or something

[Fripper]

I just tried the session with 77/123.
I tested with 9 imaginary zero's and a one.
I did bet with the 75/25 rule. In 2 figures that is.
If I could I divided the bets to 3 figures, well divided by 2 at the start and then 3 to be correct.
I did it just to keep to bets low.

+0 in 126 spins. It should have been +1, but somewhere I did a mistake on some calcs and I must have missed one unit somewhere. The important thing is that I cleared it.

Highest bet 438 units.
Lowest point 1255 units.
So a bankroll of 1500 would be needed.

As you can see the bets become very high, maybe there is a way to reduce them even more, I don't know.
I will test this with 65 imaginary zero's and a one to see the difference.

[VIP]

And I thought that my 98 chip highest  bet was very BIG...hahahhaa

And where will u find a table my friend to allow you to place a so big bet?

[Fripper]

And I thought that my 98 chip highest  bet was very BIG...hahahhaa

And where will you find a table my friend to allow you to place a so big bet?

Just look around and you will found it, there are several of them out there.

Belgians highest bet so far have been 304 units. He does something different, and this was on a harder session than mine, atleast I think so.

I will try to reduce my bets with some new ways.

[albalaha]

I think there are some misconceptions in the concept. Risking 1200 units and working out for so long, calculating so much to gain o unit is not very practical. We gamble to earn something taking risk of whatever we put in. No risk no gain. There can't be a completely insured bet which can earn too.

[Fripper]

I think there are some misconceptions in the concept. Risking 1200 units and working out for so long, calculating so much to gain o unit is not very practical. We gamble to earn something taking risk of whatever we put in. No risk no gain. There can't be a completely insured bet which can earn too.

200 spin session is the max to be certain to win 1 unit atleast. If you don't like it I don't blame you. If this is winning then there is no doubt that I will play it.

Will be back with some new testings soon.

[albalaha]

I think no one would like to play 200 spins to earn 1 unit, which is also as unsure as anything in the roulette risking thousands of units and working for hours. Doesn't make any sense. My perception only. Why don't you show the method(progression) by any sample session?
     If you do not mind, I give you a sample session of 50 spins only where you are playing red and it came 17 times only in the manner I show you. Play your method here:
BBRBBRBBBR-RBRBBRRRBR-BRBBB0B0RB-BRBBBBBBRB-0BRRBBBBRR

[Fripper]

I think no one would like to play 200 spins to earn 1 unit, which is also as unsure as anything in the roulette risking thousands of units and working for hours. Doesn't make any sense. My perception only. Why don't you show the method(progression) by any sample session?
     If you do not mind, I give you a sample session of 50 spins only where you are playing red and it came 17 times only in the manner I show you. Play your method here:
BBRBBRBBBR-RBRBBRRRBR-BRBBB0B0RB-BRBBBBBBRB-0BRRBBBBRR

Hehe, if you were certain to win 1 unit? Not thousands of units  to bet, as you can see Belgian tested the worst day he could ever find 69/131 and his highest bet was 304 units.

If you think that no one would play this method if it was certain to win, then you are way of track.

This is the worst that can happen, and you have to test these to be certain to win everytime you play, everyone should test like this if you ask me.

Ofcourse almost all the sessions will end much quicker and win like 15 units or whatever you prefer.

I could show you a test right now but I have not tested this myself enough to give you an workable example. I'm not certain about all the rules that he plays with. I will continue to look at his posts and see what I can do to keep my bets low as possible.