Matrix Turbo !

[Twisteruk]

I know it puts a new spin on everything, which makes it tough for concrete rules.

To be honest in over 12,000 numbers, I only came across a 12+ once (without zero), so maybe carry on playing the original way.

I was testing having each column separate, do you still play this way Twister?

BW

I play with the progression going from one column to another NOT 3 separate progressions for each column

All Triggers are Vertical

I play on BV NZ RNG with a 12 step progression  


Current Profit is +294 Units

[buffalowizard]

Ok, that's the way I started playing this from the very beginning so we'll go with it. Can we get this moved to the systems section where it may get larger audience? i think the name Vertical matrix triples is rather cumbersome. How about Matrix Turbo? With Twisters turbo injected progression?!

Cheers

Buffalo

[Twisteruk]

Ok, that's the way I started playing this from the very beginning so we'll go with it. Can we get this moved to the systems section where it may get larger audience? I think the name Vertical matrix triples is rather cumbersome. How about Matrix Turbo? With Twisters turbo injected progression?!

Cheers

Buffalo

Name change and move to Full Systems 

[buffalowizard]

These 12 will come I assure you,as it was tested couple years
ago on old VLS/secret section/from 3 to 10 vertical,in all sort of combinations,and the 7th.
showed best results....why nobody had an answer.mY 2 cents is to bet flat bet in triples,
either lose 3 or 1 or win same......if lose rise your flat from 1 to 2....if lose again rise to 3,
and so on,same reducing on the win.Re check your post numbers and you will see results.

I'm interested to know if F lat was playing/testing this exactly as we are, way back then. If he was, for how long and if it didn't hold up, then maybe we should rethink?
Hope he can answer us

[buffalowizard]

Like this:

ABC
123
213   <here a double, bet for it to become a triple
112   <loss, but another double formed in column B, bet for it to become triple
312   <win in column B, plus another double formed in column C etc

[Twisteruk]

Like this:

ABC
123
213   <here a double, bet for it to become a triple
112   <loss, but another double formed in column B, bet for it to become triple
312   <win in column B, plus another double formed in column C etc

Yep, just like that mate 

[buffalowizard]

How much would a loss be using your progression Twister? You must have almost covered 1 loss so far?

[chrisbis]

.................and just how do U progress the loss stages? 

I need know exactly, just in case a bot comes out of this, or even a Tracker of some description.

The coder(s) need exact rules please lads!! 

[F_LAT_INO]

I'm interested to know if F lat was playing/testing this exactly as we are, way back then. If he was, for how long and if it didn't hold up, then maybe we should rethink?
Hope he can answer us

Buf. T o be quite honest can't remember now,but know we were working on it for quite long,then somebody comes with a new idea/same as here/then the previous ideas goes forgoten.I also think testing something on 1000000 spins is ridiculous.No logic in that my friend,any B&M player will tell you same.If the method wins in regular night session,6 out of 10  it is a winner.

[buffalowizard]

Buf. T o be quite honest can't remember now,but know we were working on it for quite long,then somebody comes with a new idea/same as here/then the previous ideas goes forgoten.I also think testing something on 1000000 spins is ridiculous.No logic in that my friend,any B&M player will tell you same.If the method wins in regular night session,6 out of 10  it is a winner.

Thanks F lat, it gives me more confidence we are on the right path here. I know how it is when lots of ideas float around and some can get lost in the clouds. Hopefully we can keep tight grip on this.

[buffalowizard]

.................and just how do you progress the loss stages? 

I need know exactly, just in case a bot comes out of this, or even a Tracker of some description.

The coder(s) need exact rules please lads!! 

Chris, on a loss, you just wait for another double to form and then bet that that will turn into a triple. If that loses, then you move up the progression and track for another double and bet for that to become a triple etc

ABC
123
132  <double formed, bet on trip to form under it
132  <win. Bet next under column's B and C
111  <loss, loss. So now we're on 3rd leg of progression and wait for another double

[Twisteruk]

How much would a loss be using your progression Twister? You must have almost covered 1 loss so far?

Here is the progression I use (thanx Kattila for your help!)

2u wins 4u
3u wins 4u
6u wins 7u
9u wins 7u
14u wins 8u
21u wins 8u
32u wins 9u
50u wins 13u
80u wins 23u
120u wins 23u
185u wins 33u
285u wins 48u

That may look high towards the end but if ure betting penny/cent bets the last leg is 2.85


It wont suit all tastes  

[superman]

How would you bet a continuing repeat, example

B | B | C
C | C | C <-----3rd column formed, bet for a repeat
B | A | C <------repeat, win, is now a trigger in effect again
B | C | C <------repeat again

I think single dozens are a much better bet than 2 dozens, chrisbs has asked me to look into this thread, that's my first question, there may be more

[buffalowizard]

How would you bet a continuing repeat, example

B | B | C
C | C | C <-----3rd column formed, bet for a repeat
B | A | C <------repeat, win, is now a trigger in effect again
B | C | C <------repeat again

I think single dozens are a much better bet than 2 dozens, chrisbs has asked me to look into this thread, that's my forst question, there may be more

Hi superman, yes I prefer the single dozen bet also, and for one to very rarely pass 12 is exciting news. The vast majority of wins come before 7. In your example, I leave it until A or B break the sequence and another 'pure' double comes along

Example:

C
C   <bet for triple
C   <win
C   <no bet
B
A
A   <bet again here

[GLC]

Hi superman, yes I prefer the single dozen bet also, and for one to very rarely pass 12 is exciting news. The vast majority of wins come before 7. In your example, I leave it until A or B break the sequence and another 'pure' double comes along

Hey Buff,

I know that you know this, I just want to remind us that when we're betting a martingale of 12 steps on the single dozens or columns we get over 80% maybe 90% of our wins within the first 7 steps.  The killer is how often do we get that 13th step that wipes out a ton of wins.  Sounds like so far this one stays ahead of the 13th step enough to make it a worthy system to continue to pursue.

Good one,

George