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MATRIX VERTICAL *30 LIVE ATTACK*

Started by Johnlegend, Feb 16, 02:01 PM 2011

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Johnlegend

Quote from: ZigZag on Feb 21, 06:35 PM 2011
Hi Post. You could wait all day for a double trigger on a live wheel.

I'm still winning with this. I keep it to short sessions i.e I never go beyond 10 DEEP of the matrix unless i'm already in play. Not going beyond 10 deep playing both dozens and coloms usually only gives me 2 triggers/2 wins per short session on average.

I like to give the wheel as little window as possible to hit me with a 5 in a row

At moment i'm testing with a 4 stage progression just to see how far I can go, but for safety I would say Johns way is probably better with just a three stage, and double your chips for 10 bets for recovery.

How many sessions so far have you done and what's your highest bet so far?
I only done 30 sessions so far. Only once as it hit 3rd. In fact this would make a great flatbet as the hit rate is quite remarkable.
zig zag well done ur learning how to win longterm I'm 168/0 with this single trigger ;D ;D

Johnlegend

Been taken to step 3 five times but haven't lost 26PTS BANK YET! As zig zag said get ur profit and close it down he's got it. >:( >:( >:( ;D

atlantis

Quote from: Johnlegend on Feb 22, 03:32 PM 2011
Been taken to step 3 five times but haven't lost 26PTS BANK YET! As zig zag said get your profit and close it down he's got it. >:( >:( >:( ;D

168/0 is a wonderful achievement - and pleased to hear the 26pt bank is holding up too.
I've been testing today MATRIX30 with some additional triggers and had some really good results over in the "Alternative Matrix" thread in the Notepad section.
What you think on that idea, John?
I certainly agree about getting your profit then closing out the game when you've got it!!

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Johnlegend

Hi Atlantis yes short sessions are the secret to a long winning streak, I dodged a 4 trip yesterday. Had I stayed on for another 30 spins, still haven't seen a 5 trip. I'm risking 26pts as recovery that will be much easier than 80. So stable is this method strikes are coming on the 1st & 2nd step after the trigger frequently. If I can even average out a strikerate of 50/1 with the 3 step I'll be very happy. This is Scoobies masterpiece of system play live. Keep experimenting, and HEY what happenned to the TWISTER??????

ZigZag

Hi John. I was worried you went bust on this as haven't seen you here for a while with any results. Glad to hear your still winning with this. Shot sessions is the key  :smile:
I will be adopting your recovery method soon as my bank grows to try protect it.

Are you playing columns as well?

I've only just got my head around what GLC and Atlantis are doing with an alternative Matrix but not had much time to test as yet, but looks great with lot of triggers  :thumbsup:

Yeah where is Twister?

chrisbis

Twisteruk was in the forum earlier..................reading.

Maybe he's real busy work wise.  :thumbsup:

Johnlegend

Quote from: ZigZag on Feb 22, 04:40 PM 2011
Hi John. I was worried you went bust on this as haven't seen you here for a while with any results. Glad to hear your still winning with this. Shot sessions is the key  :smile:
I will be adopting your recovery method soon as my bank grows to try protect it.

Are you playing columns as well?

I've only just got my head around what GLC and Atlantis are doing with an alternative Matrix but not had much time to test as yet, but looks great with lot of triggers  :thumbsup:

Yeah where is Twister?

No Zig Zag, this is all I do, I run 4 methods. Don't suppose you remember THE ZONE? Well I still use it, and through testing another one of Scoobies methods found a way to make it more accessable, appealing and stable. Im going to re-introduce it as the ZONE perfected over the weekend. Imagine what we are doing here with a SINGLE DOZEN and only 6 points on the line. Yes, the ZONE PERFECTED, MATRIX 49, and now  MATRIX 3. Are my methods. I've left the MATRIX vertical 4 quad on the backburner at 255/0 its fantastic.

But I always favour true random. And I've got 3 solid methods to profit from live play now. Haven't checked out what GLC and Atlantis are up to yet. But, if it holds up for another fortnight I will. Have called it a day with
MATRIX 3 at 170/0
MATRIX 49 6,344 units up

And the one that's going to throw a spanner in the works
THE ZONE PERFECTED 78 units up. ;D ;D

ZigZag

Yes I remember the zone but at the time I was betting the RBRBR ZIGZAG runs

hence my name :LoL:

I'm really excited to hear you have made the zone even better. Wow would be great to go into a real casino armed with 5 different roulette killers.

I should stop watching those Bond movies  :-[

Twisteruk

Hi guys, Im still here  ;D


Havent had the time to devote to testing/playing this last week or so


I keep myself up to date with your posts and how ell ure doing  :thumbsup:
Its Set In Stone =)

Post

I just tested 1000 real spins from the site :.spielbank-wiesbaden.de

with the methode wait for a triple and then bet against it forming again.
I only played till the third part of the progression 1-1 3-3 and the last 9-9
I didn't even saw a single loss. I was up 41 after the spins is that about right ?

ZigZag

Hi Twister. Good to see your interest. Hope to see some more results from you soon  :smile:

Quote from: Post on Feb 23, 10:14 AM 2011
I just tested 1000 real spins from the site :.spielbank-wiesbaden.de

with the methode wait for a triple and then bet against it forming again.
I only played till the third part of the progression 1-1 3-3 and the last 9-9
I didn't even saw a single loss. I was up 41 after the spins is that about right ?

Hi Post I got to last stage of progression once. Slingshot roulette Betting the columns

Update: I have stopped playing columns now.  taking me to second step too many times, third step twice and 4th once. Dozens seem more steady. No dozen has taken me past the second step as yet.

Playing on real wheel now with dealer.  :thumbsup:







Post

I did hit the last step 3 or 4 times though

but playing like this means like 1 unit profit every 25 spins or so after looking into my sessions is that about right ?

atlantis

Another easy way to try is to bet only after a vertical trigger triple:

TRIGGERS
========
1
1
1

2
2
2

or

3
3
3

I like it because it is simple and not too different to the original MATRIX30

Unlike MATRIX30 which waits for ANY doublet after ANY one of the three triple triggers; instead only play that a MATCHING doublet will not form another triple...
For example if you get a vertical trigger 2-2-2 then next time you get vertical 2-2 (matching doublet) play against the treble forming.
WIN or LOSE you must wait for the next vertical triple 2-2-2 to form before you can again bet on 2-2 not forming a triple.

Example using some previous numbers:

232
132
121
123--Trigger 1-1-1
211
313
132--W1@1-1-3  [RESET TRIGGER 1's]
333
231
322
331
311--Trigger 3-3-3
321--Trigger 1-1-1
323
123--W1@3-3-1 [RESET TRIGGER 3's] ; Trigger 2-2-2
122
223--W1@1-1-2 [RESET TRIGGER 1's]
131--W1@2-2-3 [RESET TRIGGER 2's]
122
232
123
223
323--Trigger 3-3-3
323--Trigger 2-2-2
332--W1@3-3-2 [RESET TRIGGER 3's]
333--Trigger 3-3-3
113--W1@3-3-1 [RESET TRIGGER 3's]
222

+6u
All 6 bets won on first step.

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Post

so atlantis your idea is to have a single trigger for each dozen so only bet 3 if you had a triple of 3 and so also for the dozens 1 and 2

ZigZag

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 23, 11:07 AM 2011
Another easy way to try is to bet only after a vertical trigger triple:

TRIGGERS
========
1
1
1

2
2
2

or

3
3
3

I like it because it is simple and not too different to the original MATRIX30

Unlike MATRIX30 which waits for ANY doublet after ANY one of the three triple triggers; instead only play that a MATCHING doublet will not form another triple...
For example if you get a vertical trigger 2-2-2 then next time you get vertical 2-2 (matching doublet) play against the treble forming.
WIN or LOSE you must wait for the next vertical triple 2-2-2 to form before you can again bet on 2-2 not forming a triple.

Example using some previous numbers:

232
132
121
123--Trigger 1-1-1
211
313
132--W1@1-1-3  [RESET TRIGGER 1's]
333
231
322
331
311--Trigger 3-3-3
321--Trigger 1-1-1
323
123--W1@3-3-1 [RESET TRIGGER 3's] ; Trigger 2-2-2
122
223--W1@1-1-2 [RESET TRIGGER 1's]
131--W1@2-2-3 [RESET TRIGGER 2's]
122
232
123
223
323--Trigger 3-3-3
323--Trigger 2-2-2
332--W1@3-3-2 [RESET TRIGGER 3's]
333--Trigger 3-3-3
113--W1@3-3-1 [RESET TRIGGER 3's]
222

+6u
All won on first bet.

A.

Yes Atlantis thats how i play this. After a win i wait for another tripple as a trigger.  :thumbsup: Your Alternative matrix is looking quite solid as a flat bet.

1 Unit for every 25 spins, seems ok to me. Usualy in a 10 deep Matrix of 30 spins i get about 1 or 2 triggers + bets in

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