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Don't need my own personal section for this

Started by Gizmotron, Jun 04, 02:43 PM 2011

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Gizmotron

Quote from: albalaha on Jun 03, 11:45 PM 2011
FINEST WAY TO BEAT RANDOMNESS OF ALL EVEN CHANCES BETS OF ROULETTE

It is a harsh reality that randomness is the reason behind ultimate losses in a game of chance.

Quote from: Gizmotron on Jun 04, 12:22 AM 2011
It's also the reason for ultimate winnings from a skilled randomness player.  My guess is that you are not a skilled randomness player. I hope one day that you get skilled in this. Both sides of the paradigm is far more interesting.

Quote from: albalaha on Jun 04, 01:05 AM 2011
Dear Gizmotron,
                     I don't want any bitterness in this thread of mine. I hate empty critics. I will delete your and my comments after a while to keep this place clean. If you have anything to offer, do that in a fresh topic and so far as my capability is concerned, I have put that in two threads in my section;- 1. rival casinos are too much scared of me and 2. daily winnings from betvoyager with proofs. what I have done, you can't even dare to think. I can teach guys like you.


Well I did what you suggested. I had no idea you were so emotional. You can't delete this. My point was that if you don't look at both sides of randomness then you are blinded to one side. But you flipped out and took it as criticism. Trust me, if I wanted to provide you with empty criticism I'd start in on you the right way. You could tell the difference. I was attempting to get you to open your eyes. You clearly believe you are a great player while making blatant conclusions like this: "It is a harsh reality that randomness is the reason behind ultimate losses in a game of chance." You have no idea what a winning strategy is based in with regards to randomness. The title of your thread makes you out to be an expert on randomness. So Where is the proof of that?
I am the living proof that Roulette can be beat every time I set out to beat it.

Gizmotron

Another possibly deleted post from that thread:

Quote from: Gizmotron on Jun 04, 03:19 PM 2011
I got the right post quoted at the Dissenting Section of this forum. I quoted myself from that. He can't delete that one. I don't need a personal section to talk about randomness or to hide from discussion.  Apparently he does. Let's see if the chicken will come out to play in the real world.
I am the living proof that Roulette can be beat every time I set out to beat it.

F_LAT_INO

He only talks in-ALBALAHA EXCLUSIVE-as he loves that delete button.
You can always get me on  
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Gizmotron

Quote from: F_LAT_INO on Jun 04, 03:59 PM 2011
He only talks in-ALBALAHA EXCLUSIVE-as he loves that delete button.

Oh, thanks. I guess this is a waste of my time. Best to leave him in his ignorance. I'm sure he'll leave my in mine.
I am the living proof that Roulette can be beat every time I set out to beat it.

Gizmotron

What an absolute punk you are:

Quote from: albalaha on Jun 05, 09:46 PM 2011
I have deleted personal attacking posts and other posts which had nothing to do with this topic. Please stay on debate only without going too personal and out of topic discussions are complete no- no for me, whether you like it or not.

You chickened out.

Quote from: albalahaIt is a harsh reality that randomness is the reason behind ultimate losses in a game of chance.

You can't defend that and you ran like a chump. Stay cool. ... Oh and this too. Go to a casino and bet real money too.
I am the living proof that Roulette can be beat every time I set out to beat it.

carpanta

What albalaha claims is absolutely right.

Randomness is the reason why most players cant beat the game.

On the other hand, it is the reason why some can beat it.

The difference between the losser and the winner is that while one can not understand randomness the other takes profit from it.

Is it a contradiction?
No, in the least.
Those who actually beat the game have made up thier mind time ago.

We know randomness is bound to perform under certain principles that cant not be denied because they are attached to randomness behavoir.

I'm talking about trends, frecuence and secuence of outcomes during the game.

They are due to happen and you can predict them with certain accuracy from past spins.

I know this is the real stuff about the game.

Nobody can deny independence of the spins but everybody might take adventage of recurrent events by calculating their frecuence and secuence in the short time.

Most important you know what you are looking for, record and track it in a matrix while using simple statistics to calculate a bet selection.

All this requieres a thorough comprehension of numbers caracteristic and their distribution around the wheel.

Most players wont achieve this goal if they dont change their mindset.
It needs thinking out of the box, hard working coz there are no easy formulae to win and much practice.

I know all this crash against what traditional maths says that the game cannot be beaten.

The game maybe not but the wheel yes.

Cheers,
Carlos.

Gizmotron

Quote from: carpanta on Jun 06, 04:51 AM 2011
What albalaha claims is absolutely right.

Randomness is the reason why most players can't beat the game.

On the other hand, it is the reason why some can beat it.

When you put it that way I agree with you.

But this: randomness is the reason behind ultimate losses in a game of chance.

That use of the word "ultimate" is inclusive of everyone that must lose. He's saying that everyone must lose in the long run. There are players out there that use favorable conditions combined with good money management techniques to forge a winning strategy. There is no "ultimate" destiny that is accorded to everyone, just most people.
I am the living proof that Roulette can be beat every time I set out to beat it.

WannaWin

Quote from: carpanta on Jun 06, 04:51 AM 2011
What albalaha claims is absolutely right.

Randomness is the reason why most players can't beat the game.

On the other hand, it is the reason why some can beat it.

The difference between the losser and the winner is that while one can not understand randomness the other takes profit from it.

Is it a contradiction?
No, in the least.
Those who actually beat the game have made up their mind time ago.

We know randomness is bound to perform under certain principles that can't not be denied because they are attached to randomness behavoir.

I'm talking about trends, frecuence and secuence of outcomes during the game.

They are due to happen and you can predict them with certain accuracy from past spins.

I know this is the real stuff about the game.

Nobody can deny independence of the spins but everybody might take adventage of recurrent events by calculating their frecuence and secuence in the short time.

Most important you know what you are looking for, record and track it in a matrix while using simple statistics to calculate a bet selection.

All this requieres a thorough comprehension of numbers caracteristic and their distribution around the wheel.

Most players wont achieve this goal if they don't change their mindset.
It needs thinking out of the box, hard working because there are no easy formulae to win and much practice.

I know all this crash against what traditional maths says that the game cannot be beaten.

The game maybe not but the wheel yes.

Cheers,
Carlos.


Very interesting Mr. Carpanta.

I understand you refer to the game made by numerical labels as invincible and the roulette device as beatable.

Or it refers to the cylinder without all the different physical variables? Because I believe that the cylinder is part of the numerical game as such.

To speak of an advantage game would have been required to take into account all factors, including the launching point of the ball, the speed, the bounce scatter, and all the paraphernalia related to the physical device in action during the set spin.

My question to answer: is the game beatable by the disc patterns without consideration of other variables by you or are you referring to the visual ballistics and all its physical variables accounted for.

Thank you.

WannaWin
Roulette is the hardest game and the more exciting for everyone because it is easy to operate and pays 35 to 1.

carpanta

Quote from: WannaWin on Jun 06, 12:32 PM 2011
Very interesting Mr. Carpanta.

I understand you refer to the game made by numerical labels as invincible and the roulette device as beatable.

Or it refers to the cylinder without all the different physical variables? Because I believe that the cylinder is part of the numerical game as such.

To speak of an advantage game would have been required to take into account all factors, including the launching point of the ball, the speed, the bounce scatter, and all the paraphernalia related to the physical device in action during the set spin.

My question to answer: is the game beatable by the disc patterns without consideration of other variables by you or are you referring to the visual ballistics and all its physical variables accounted for.

I refer maths doesnt cheat.
It is true roulette players has a disadventage because of the unfair payoff.
I mean the casino has an edge over the player.
That is the reason why the game is unbeatable long run.
The only reason why the player can have an edge got to do with phisics but not necessarily the way VB aproach the game where as you say you need to take into account many variables to support your bet selection.
Last ball spin when it drops is enough to develop strategies based on a metodology which put an order to the numbers on the wheel.
They can be arranged in such a way trends, frecuence and secuence of the outcomes can be recorded, tracked and bet while performing patterns to continue. 

Cheers,
Carlos.

WannaWin

Quote from: carpanta on Jun 06, 01:11 PM 2011
The only reason why the player can have an edge got to do with physics but not necessarily the way VB aproach the game where as you say you need to take into account many variables to support your bet selection.
Last ball spin when it drops is enough to develop strategies based on a metodology which put an order to the numbers on the wheel.

Very bold statement Mr. Carpanta.

I would like to know more about what you can share about it.

If possible, please open a thread about it. You already have an audience.

Warm greetings.

WannaWin
Roulette is the hardest game and the more exciting for everyone because it is easy to operate and pays 35 to 1.

carpanta

Quote from: WannaWin on Jun 06, 03:09 PM 2011
Very bold statement Mr. Carpanta.

I would like to know more about what you can share about it.

If possible, please open a thread about it. You already have an audience.

Warm greetings.

WannaWin

Thanks for your greetings. The same for you Mr WannaWin.
Im not a big writer. English is second language for me so i developed my ideas in a spanish forum which was closed recently. The administrator got fed up about too many people having great fun but little knowledge about roulette game.

Im not bold person because i can present facts.
¿How many people round here can beat 10 sessions in a row playing inside bets?.
Say one hundred chips is my goal for each session. At the most forty spins should do to achieve such goal. Flat betting most of the time, doubling some bets when requiered.

It is not about boasting i can beat the wheel. Im a bit weary looking at so many systems just to see they dont work long term because there are based on fixed rules.
Mechanical play when the game is dinamic. Progressions to solve such stiff rules. The game  requieres dinamic bet selection to follow the rithm of outcomes.

The thing about matrices is not writing them but knowing how information recorded performs
and have a chance to profit from it.

Im not here to gather audience.
Just my 2 cents to show the game can be beaten when you know what you are looking for. Observation and calculation beats the game.
Statistics can tell you a lot about short term outcomes.
Randomness can not avoid having its share in terms of trends, frecuence and secuence of events to produce roulette outcomes.

So far so good. Absolutely roulette can be beaten. Not to say speculation is requiered. That's the player right to go through try and error ( ¿do you say that way in english?)
till you adjust your bet selection to an optimun performance, having more wins than losses. 

Cheers,
Carlos.




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