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Divide and Conquer Progression

Started by GLC, Jun 05, 10:39 PM 2011

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GLC

Divide and Conquer progression:

1.  1-1  Bet 1 on each dozen.  If win go to 1.  If you lose go to 2.
2.  1-1  Bet 1 on each dozen 2 times.  If you win 2 times go to 1.  If lose go to 3.
3.  1-1  Bet 1 on each dozen 2 times and 2 on each 1 times.  If win go to 1.  If lose go to 4.
4.  1-1  Bet 1 on each dozen 2 times, 2 on each 1 time, 3 on each 1X.  If win go to 1.  If lose go to 5.
5.  2-2  Bet 2 on each doz 1X, 3 on each 1X, 4 on each 1X.  If win go to 1.  If lose go to 6.
6.  2-2  Bet 2  on each 1X, 3  1X, 4  1X, 6  1X.  If win go to 1.  If lose go to 7.
7.  3-3  Bet 3, then 4, then 6, then 9.  If win go to 1.  If lose go to 8.
8.  4-4  Bet 4, then 6, then 9, then 13
9.  5-5  Just cont to bet 1/2 of the units on the table after a win on each dozen 4X.  Win all 4, go to 1.
10. 6-6
11. 8-8
12. 10-10
13.  13-13
14.  17-17
15.  22-22
16.  28-28

Once you get past the 1st 2-2 you're just trying to win 4 times in a row to recover all losses.

The most you can lose at each level is the first bet on the double dozen.

With the strike rate of Divide and Conquer, it shouldn't be too difficult to win 4 in a row.  

For those of you who have your games logged, try this on a few of them and see how it does.  It shouldn't take too long to test a few and give us a report.  Most of the time your bet size should stay pretty manageable.

Shoot for +10 and take a break.

LOL, :thumbsup: :lol:

George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

GLC

Here's the above bet but for 3 in a row instead of 4 in a row:
Remember, we can only lose the amount of the 1st bet at any level.
The 2nd and 3rd bets are made up by the units in the 1st bet plus our winnings.
Notice that our "If lose" column is determined by adding the 1st bets together.

If lose    1st bet      2nd bet       3rd bet          if win
-2            1-1            1-1              2-2                 +4
-4            1-1            1-1              2-2                 +2
-6            1-1            1-1              2-2                   0
-10          2-2            3-3              4-4                  +3
-16          3-3            4-4              6-6                  +4
-24          4-4            6-6              9-9                  +3                   
-36          6-6            9-9              13-13              +4
-52          8-8            12-12          18-18              +2
-74          11-11        16-16          24-24              +1
-104        15-15        22-22          37-37               0
-148        22-22        33-33          49-49               0
-212        32-32        48-48          68-68               0
-304        46-46        66-66          99-99               0

We hit often enough on the 1st few bets to win our 10 or so units without having to win at every level.

In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

LuckyLucy

Hi GLC, sorry but im struggling to understand this:

Bet 1 on each dozen 2 times and 2 on each 1 times.  If win go to 1.  If lose go to 4.
4.  1-1  Bet 1 on each dozen 2 times, 2 on each 1 time, 3 on each 1X.  If win go to 1.  If lose go to 5.
5.  2-2  Bet 2 on each doz 1X, 3 on each 1X, 4 on each 1X.  If win go to 1.  If lose go to 6.
6.  2-2  Bet 2  on each 1X, 3  1X, 4  1X, 6  1X.  If win go to 1.  If lose go to 7.

Sorry can you explain the text in bold a little clearer for me.

Thank you

Lucy

GLC

Quote from: LuckyLucy on Jun 17, 02:30 AM 2011
Hi GLC, sorry but I'm struggling to understand this:

Bet 1 on each dozen 2 times and 2 on each 1 times.  If win go to 1.  If lose go to 4.
4.  1-1  Bet 1 on each dozen 2 times, 2 on each 1 time, 3 on each 1X.  If win go to 1.  If lose go to 5.
5.  2-2  Bet 2 on each doz 1X, 3 on each 1X, 4 on each 1X.  If win go to 1.  If lose go to 6.
6.  2-2  Bet 2  on each 1X, 3  1X, 4  1X, 6  1X.  If win go to 1.  If lose go to 7.

Sorry can you explain the text in bold a little clearer for me.

Thank you

Lucy

Sorry to take so long to get back to you.

The basics of the progression are that we bet for 4 wins in a row.
Let's take 4 units on each dozen.  That's 4-4 if we win we will have won 4 more units.  Now we have 12 counting the 8 we bet and the 4 we won.  Divide that by 2 and we get the size of our next bet which is 6-6.  If we win the 6-6 we will have 18 units divided by 2 gives us 9-9 for the next bet.  If we win 9-9 we will have 27 divided by 2 gives us 13-13, ignore the 1 extra.  If we win 13-13, we will have 39 units.  We started with 8 of our own and we have won 31 units.  We will have recovered all our previous losses and be at a new high bank so we can start over with 1-1.

The 1-1's don't all go to 4 wins because we recover on fewer and can re-set.  If you want, you can play each 1-1 level for the 4 bets.
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

LuckyLucy

 :) ah thank you GLC much clearer now.

Cheers

Lucy

Gordonline


Hi GLC

Thanks for the progression on this excellent method, by the way I'm nearly finished testing over 3800 spins flat betting so will be able to look at this and report back to you

Not promising it in the next few days but will let you know when I've finished

Thanks
Gordon
Dream as if you will "Live Forever" Live each day as if its your "Last"

GLC

Gordonline,  We all appreciate the effort it takes to test any of these progressions.


I'm easgerly waiting to hear how this does compared to flat betting.


George
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

marivo


catalyst

Quote from: Gordonline on Jul 20, 04:55 PM 2011
Hi GLC

Thanks for the progression on this excellent method, by the way I'm nearly finished testing over 3800 spins flat betting so will be able to look at this and report back to you

Not promising it in the next few days but will let you know when I've finished

Thanks
Gordon

hi gordon
have you noticed another excellent progression for double dozen from the same great mind GLC which is ' iceman system adapted to dozens' thread? :thumbsup:

what do you think?

thanks
catalyst

GLC

Here's the bet for 5 wins in a row.  Posted just for posterity.  And so I don't have to re-figure it if I ever want to look at it again.

1-1
1-1
1-1
1-1
1-1
2-2
2-2
2-2
2-2
3-3
3-3
4-4
4-4
4-4
6-6
6-6
8-8
8-8
10-10
12-12
14-14
18-18


You can continue to calculate it further if you want.  If you lose the above progression, it will be -226 units. 
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Wally Gator

George,


How are you playing this on the first 4 sets of 1-1?  Seems we could be there for an extended period of time.  Can you provide a quick blow by blow on say the first 6 in the series with wins and losses.


Great ideas, by the way ... as always.


Best, John
A person with a new idea is a crank until the idea succeeds. ~ Mark Twain

marivo

Quote from: GLC on Jun 16, 10:46 PM 2011

Notice that our "If lose" column is determined by adding the 1st bets together.



How do you mean  this?



GLC

Quote from: marivo on Jul 30, 06:01 PM 2011

How do you mean  this?


Our progression is this:
1-1
1-1
1-1
2-2
3-3
4-4
etc...


Everytime we bet a level in our progression and lose it, we total the initial units bet together to get the number of units we are down and have to recover at the next level.


1.  We bet 1-1 and lose so we are -2
2.  We bet the 2nd 1-1 and lose so we are -2 + -2 = -4
3.  We bet the 3rd 1-1 and lose so we are -2 + -2 + -2 = -6
4.  We bet 2-2 and lose so we are -2 + -2 + -2 + -4 = -10
5.  If we lose at 3-3 we will be at -10 + -6 = -16 and this means that we must win at 4-4 = +4; and 6-6 = +6; and 9-9 = +9.  That's +19 units won, 4 + 6 + 9 = +19 - 16 we lost previously and this gives us +3 units meaning that we can start over at our 1st 1-1.


G
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

marivo

Yes I understand now what you meant, thank you!

Quote from: GLC on Jul 23, 11:38 AM 2011
Here's the bet for 5 wins in a row.  Posted just for posterity.  And so I don't have to re-figure it if I ever want to look at it again.

So in this case first row would be:

If lose    1st bet      2nd bet       3rd bet        4th bet      5th bet    if win
-2            1-1            1-1              2-2              3-3           4-4       +11


Is my logic correct?

GLC

Quote from: marivo on Jul 31, 03:53 AM 2011
Yes I understand now what you meant, thank you!

So in this case first row would be:

If lose    1st bet      2nd bet       3rd bet        4th bet      5th bet    if win
-2            1-1            1-1              2-2              3-3           4-4       +11


Is my logic correct?


Exactly right.  Every bet is built on the first bet at that level plus any wins.  We always bet as high as we can. 


The 3-3 level would be 3-3=3  That's 9 divided by 2 = 4.5.  We round down to 4-4=4.  That gives us 12 divided by 2 = 6-6 for the next bet. etc...


This is as good a bet progression as any.  The negatives are that on a really bad run, you have to play a lot of spins to finally win a couple units and if you don't get  your 5 in a row at any level, it's a big set-back.


A positive is that 5 in a row is pretty common with a good bet selection.  But, there will be losses. :'(   Also, you can always back up in the progression if you are betting in the later levels and you get 3 in a row or 4 in a row and are close to the end of the progression.  This moves you back a little and gives you some breathing room.


I refer you to my last post on double dozen bets to what I think is a better alternative:


link:://rouletteforum.cc/money-management/2-doz-col-progressions/


This will take you to the topic so you have to go to reply #5 to read the progression.


G
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

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