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Don't ever chase any particular bet. It is bound to harm you in long run.

Started by albalaha, Jun 09, 11:06 PM 2011

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albalaha

No bet selection has any advantage over others. Say, you chase a single number. Never forget that 36/37 numbers are against you and they can stretch your session for so long that either you lose all your bankroll or get tired before it hits. I have personally faced a single number remaining sleeper for more than 250 times. Even an EC may go as long as 25-30 times in succession coupled with/without zero while its counterpart remaining sleeper for that time. That is why instead of picking any particular EC, I suggested using a dice to chose your bets. There is nothing like patterns, what you see as two reds and two blacks are basically 4 numbers which are quite unrelated.
                    I am writing this because a friend of mine just bought a system which says start betting after a dozen does not show for 5 times in a row. He won in beginning but lost later. Such styles of playing is a confirm loser and you will have to lose more than you earned through it. Suggesting Martingale and a fixed bet (dozen/EC) is a trap and do not ever go for it. You will keep winning 1 unit till you lose all (winnings+your bankroll). The systems asking to join a particular casino by providing links is a death trap. Casinos give affiliate commission to there affiliates on the losses incurred by their referred players. They earn from the sale of their mala fide system as well as from your losses.
                Don't ever try any system suggesting any particular casino with links, do not use unwise progressions like Martingale or Grand Martingale and any Fix Bet Selection.
               

albertojonas

Quote from: albalaha on Jun 09, 11:06 PM 2011
No bet selection has any advantage over others.
             

no? how come? there are many that seem to have, otherwise roulette would be suppressed in favor of keno or lotto or bingo...
:yawn:

albalaha

Which particular bet has advantage over other? Either dare to speak with logic and proof or don't poke your nose in every topic of mine.

beretta28

albalaha is right.
Unluckily most of players think to have a very effective bet selection.
It doesn't exist.
Only a good money management(no greedy) can resist(not beat) to the power of roulette.
It is unbeatable,otherwise Casinos would be alredy closed.
When some members post somethimg about a very good bet selection,I laugh but at the same time I'm sad because of their stupidity.

Only the universe and the human stupidity are infinite,but as far universe is concerned I have still some doubts!

albertojonas

Quote from: albalaha on Jun 10, 12:00 AM 2011
Which particular bet has advantage over other? Either dare to speak with logic and proof or don't poke your nose in every topic of mine.

i wasn't personally attacking you.
what you wrote is a truism. in the long run every bet will harm you. In this sense that is what it is, not a piece of advice from an experienced connoisseur you pretend to look with your empty talk.

despite your rudeness, I will re affirm that are bet selections better than others, and the proof is any system that preforms better than other despite money management.
play same spins with different systems same mm. results are different.
why?
Because one bet selection is better than other.


i will re affirm that are bet selections better than others... as for proof, I will prove it with my prince system
;D ;D ;D ;D

Halba1

Quote from: beretta28 on Jun 10, 02:13 AM 2011
Albalaha is right.
Unluckily most of players think to have a very effective bet selection.
It doesn't exist.
Only a good money management(no greedy) can resist(not beat) to the power of roulette.
It is unbeatable,otherwise Casinos would be alredy closed.
When some members post somethimg about a very good bet selection,I laugh but at the same time I'm sad because of their stupidity.

Only the universe and the human stupidity are infinite,but as far universe is concerned I have still some doubts!

it is unbeatable. the systems that we have are only going to beat them a little. they can't be played in a live casino, too much time spent.

beretta28

albertojonas
With the system A you earn more than with the system B in a given number of spins.
You say that depends of the bet selection.
LOL!
It depends on the "permutation" of these spins.
I hope you know what I'm speaking about!
For sure you'll find a different number of spins where the system B performs better than system A with the same or another bet selection,still due to "permutation".
It's incredible to read comments like yours.

carpanta

Quote from: albalaha on Jun 09, 11:06 PM 2011
No bet selection has any advantage over others. Say, you chase a single number. Never forget that 36/37 numbers are against you and they can stretch your session for so long that either you lose all your bankroll or get tired before it hits. I have personally faced a single number remaining sleeper for more than 250 times. Even an EC may go as long as 25-30 times in succession coupled with/without zero while its counterpart remaining sleeper for that time. That is why instead of picking any particular EC, I suggested using a dice to chose your bets. There is nothing like patterns, what you see as two reds and two blacks are basically 4 numbers which are quite unrelated.
                   I am writing this because a friend of mine just bought a system which says start betting after a dozen does not show for 5 times in a row. He won in beginning but lost later. Such styles of playing is a confirm loser and you will have to lose more than you earned through it. Suggesting Martingale and a fixed bet (dozen/EC) is a trap and do not ever go for it. You will keep winning 1 unit till you lose all (winnings+your bankroll). The systems asking to join a particular casino by providing links is a death trap. Casinos give affiliate commission to there affiliates on the losses incurred by their referred players. They earn from the sale of their mala fide system as well as from your losses.
               Don't ever try any system suggesting any particular casino with links, do not use unwise progressions like Martingale or Grand Martingale and any Fix Bet Selection.
             


I suppose everybody will agree the game is about speculating on roulette outcomes.
When you decide a bet selection you are puting into stake whatever you believe will show in next spin/s.
It is up to the player whatever support his/her bet selection.
So bet selection needs some kind of decision from the player.
It can be related to past spin, randomness vs randomeness, some kind of money management and others parameters or a merge of these.

If your strategy derives from a method that takes into account past spins it could happen that you decide to play on frecuent events showing above their expected outcome probability.
Then you can speculate that event or events to continue.
If you are recording, tracking and calculating how those events behave in short term by means of matrices then you can speculate inside those events universe.
If you are to bet on a double street which is over rated in the present time your speculation attend betting for 5 spins, flat betting, since a hit inside those spins means you are raising 1 chips in worst escenario. If you lose then you stop betting.
That DS has quitted its former positive frecuence.

If you discard from your bet selection those events under rated by current chance behavior then you should have an edge to win consistently.
You need the right tools for such purpose, a skillfull reading of the results produced by those tools and decision to produce the announced bets.
Not to say a thorough knowledge of numbered distribution characteristics along the wheel while mastering the concept of secuence (series) all events are bound to as a result of ball random behavior.

Cheers,
Carlos.

albalaha

Dear alberto,
        Whenever you reply to any topic read the entire debate first. Then take a deep breath. Try to analyse it calmly and then speak politely as to what you feel to be right or wrong and why. You said:

Quotein the long run every bet will harm you

but I am saying something else. I am saying that there can't be any fixed bet (particularly an EC/dozen etc. or a slice of wheel) which has advantage over other. In some sessions, red will overshadow Black and in other vice-versa.
               Illogical replies are nuisance and personal attacks are rude. Always keep it in mind. You are most welcome to criticise me and my concepts but sensibly.

mimoto

I don't agree with that.

If you were playing ec bets and it went 30 without a win, that would mean my system would have 10 lines failing above each other, this is not possible.

So some bet selections are better that other.

Mimoto

albalaha

Dear Mimoto,
        Which fixed bet selection is better than other? Please elaborate.

carpanta

Quote from: albalaha on Jun 10, 07:08 AM 2011
Dear Mimoto,
        Which fixed bet selection is better than other? Please elaborate.


None. Fixed bet selection are bound to fail. That's why progressions are implemented. What a fixed bet can't do by itself a progression is developed to attain the expected hit.
Problem is when further step in a progression fail to achieve the hit.

Roulette game is dynamic so you have to try dynamic criteria to select your bets. 

Fripper

All i'm doing is living my life.

mimoto

(No bet selection has any advantage over others)

This is what you said in your first post,  and i can't see the word fixed.

albertojonas

Ok keep the bycile and run off.

:D

your tricks with words.

Check Marigny de Grilleau's work and evolve.

it's all about your replies. tough love...

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