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Started by ll l ll l lll ll, Jul 19, 01:43 PM 2011

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New creation I have been developing using the dozens and a very small stable progression.  So far in 900+ spins it has not lost.  But I need your help.  If you would like to test, please do and report your progress.

Bet selection:
We are looking for the "most recent dominant" dozen.  For my strategy, it is the first dozen which has most recently appeared twice.  Example:  35,24,2,28 are the last 4 numbers to be spun off the wheel and they are the most recent 4 numbers spun on the marquee.  The 3rd dozen now qualifies as the "dominant dozen" b/c the 3rd dozen is the most recent dozen to appear twice (35,28).

Method of play:
We are going to play the dominant dozen in a set of 3 separate spins.  So, the next 3 spins will all be 1 unit on the 3rd dozen.  Keep track of how many times the 3rd dozen hits in the next 3 spins.  If in the next 3 spins the 3rd dozen hits all 3 times, we are up +6 units.  If in the next 3 spins the 3rd dozen hits 2 of the 3 times, we are up +3 units.  If in the next 3 spins the 3rd dozen hits 1 of the 3 times, we have not won and have not lost and we remain exactly where we were.  If in the next 3 spins the 3rd dozen does not hit at all, we are down -3 units. 

Goal: 
We are looking for the dominant dozen to hit at least 2 of the next 3 spins to complete the set.  If the dominant dozen does NOT hit in the next 3 spins, we now must start our progression.

Very safe progression:
So far I have not gone above 3 units in the progression.  However, this progression is unlike most progressions that you are used to.  The progression is 1a, 1b, 1c, 2a, 2b, 2c, 3a, 3b, 3c.

We begin by betting the most dominant dozen for 3 spins 1a.  If we lose all 3 spins, we now move to the right of the progression and we are still betting 1 unit for the next 3 spins 1b.  If we lose all 3 spins again, we move to the right again and we are on 1c.  If we lose again, we move to the right and we are now on 2a.  If the next 3 spins produces a winner, we move to the left back to 1c.  If in the next 3 spins we only hit 1 of 3, we have not won or lost that set and we stay where we are and now reset and play the new most dominant dozen for 3 spins.

On a loss we move to the right after a 3 spin set.  On a win we move to the left on a 3 spin set.  The goal is to always get back to betting the smallest unit of 1a.

I have been playing 100 spin sessions and I have never gone farther than 3a.  I have always made a profit within the 100 spins.  Some of my sessions end at +20 units, some end at 7+ units.  The goal can be to play it safe and quit when ever you are +3 in profit, or you can take the progression the whole way and try to recover.  What I like about it is, I am never betting more than 3 units per spin.  The bet selection tends to favor a dominant dozen in 3 spin sets.  If we were to play a "least dominant" dozen things can get out of control in a hurry as sometimes a particular dozen can sleep for up to 20 consecutive spins.  Any time we are forced to move to the right in the progression, as long as we win at least 2 of 3 in the next 3 spin set, we have recovered our losses and can now move back to the left.

If you are not sure, ask questions.

Colbster

Barcode,
Your threads have been recommended to me from a friend I exchange PMs with on VLS board, and I have to say, this one did not disappoint.  This is one of the freshest ideas I have seen in a long time.  Done some hand testing this morning, and I think you might have a winner.  I have only gone to 1b so far, but was already up 12 units.

I like the slow progression, and I like the number of chances each gets to win.

Well done!

warrior

 HI BARCODEif you lose 3 spins and you move up in prog. do you bet for ex 3rd dozen again or are you looking for new dozen?

Tomla021

i think he looks at last 4 spins again for a new dominant doz--just guessing (it cant be the same doz as you would have won then already)
"No Whining, just Winning"

superman

what if there is no dominant dozen in the 4 spin window? can the author please confirm its a 4 spin window
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

Colbster

He didn't say it was always 4, just that those particular spins manifested a domininant dozen in 4 spins.  His instructions say "it is the dozen which has most recently appeared twice".  Maximum of 5 spins, but 4 in his example.  We need to test - this has promise!  :thumbsup:

Colbster

Got to 3b on BV no-zero, but it recovered eventually.  Up 27 units on that session, starting with a 54 unit session bankroll.

Outstanding stability so far!

ll l ll l lll ll

Quote from: Colbster on Jul 20, 09:59 AM 2011
Barcode,
Your threads have been recommended to me from a friend I exchange PMs with on VLS board, and I have to say, this one did not disappoint.  This is one of the freshest ideas I have seen in a long time.  Done some hand testing this morning, and I think you might have a winner.  I have only gone to 1b so far, but was already up 12 units.

I like the slow progression, and I like the number of chances each gets to win.

Well done!

Thanks.  I like the slow progression too.  There are actually a few other ways to play this as far as progressions go, but i'm trying to take this one to the limit and see how far I can go.  Like I said, in over 900+ spins I have not gotten past 3a of the progression.  It seems to hit alot as far as bet selection goes.  When it starts not hitting, that is what the small progression is for, eventually it always seems to come back and start hitting.  It's like it wants to keep hitting the most "recent dominant dozen."

ll l ll l lll ll

Quote from: warrior on Jul 20, 10:21 AM 2011
HI BARCODEif you lose 3 spins and you move up in prog. do you bet for ex 3rd dozen again or are you looking for new dozen?

If you lose your particular 3 spin set and get no hits, then you move up in the progression and now bet the "NEW" most dominant dozen.  The first dozen that has hit twice, is now the new most dominant dozen.

ll l ll l lll ll

Quote from: superman on Jul 20, 02:19 PM 2011
what if there is no dominant dozen in the 4 spin window? can the author please confirm its a 4 spin window

There is ALWAYS a dominant dozen in 4 spins.  If in 3 spins we have ABC we now have to look to the 4th spin to see which dozen is going to appear twice and become "the most dominant."  There can also be a dominant dozen in 3 spins, such as AAC. 

We will always look at the first 3 spins for one dozen to hit twice, if we have ABC, we then look to the 4th spin for the "tie breaker" or the most dominant dozen.  It's always which is the first dozen to appear twice.

ll l ll l lll ll

Quote from: Colbster on Jul 20, 03:06 PM 2011
Got to 3b on BV no-zero, but it recovered eventually.  Up 27 units on that session, starting with a 54 unit session bankroll.

Outstanding stability so far!

Think about the possibilities.  So far it's only pushing 3 units per spin of the progression.  What if we took it to 4a,4b,4c, 5a,5b,5c, etc?  Most of the time it lives in the 1a,1b,1c range.  I've always been a fan of LOW units in terms of small progressions, that way if I find a winning method, I can bet BIG and not worry about the house limits.

If this method never goes past 4 units, I can bet one unit at $1,000 per bet all the way up to $4,000 per bet of the progression.  If my win goal is to only make 3 units, I can go home for the day up $3,000 very quickly.

chrisbis

Quote from: superman on Jul 20, 02:19 PM 2011
what if there is no dominant dozen in the 4 spin window? can the author please confirm its a 4 spin window


I think, reading the script Neal, its a YES on the most dominant Dozen, in last 4 spins.

Juiced91

Quote from: ll l ll l lll ll on Jul 20, 03:45 PM 2011

There is ALWAYS a dominant dozen in 4 spins.  If in 3 spins we have ABC we now have to look to the 4th spin to see which dozen is going to appear twice and become "the most dominant."  There can also be a dominant dozen in 3 spins, such as AAC. 

We will always look at the first 3 spins for one dozen to hit twice, if we have ABC, we then look to the 4th spin for the "tie breaker" or the most dominant dozen.  It's always which is the first dozen to appear twice.

Well you could have ABAB. Which means no dozen is dominant. Wouldnt it maybe be best to look at 5 spins? there has to be a dominant one then. Or in my above example would we then play A as it appeared first twice?

chrisbis

For me, I would think U need to look at a group of 7 spins for "Domination"


ll l ll l lll ll

Quote from: Juiced91 on Jul 20, 04:22 PM 2011

Well you could have ABAB. Which means no dozen is dominant. Wouldnt it maybe be best to look at 5 spins? there has to be a dominant one then. Or in my above example would we then play A as it appeared first twice?

No.  That is why FIRST you must look at the first 3 spins.  There will always be a dozen that has shown twice unless you get ABC.  ONLY if you get ABC in the first three spins, then the 4th spin is the tie breaker and the "most dominant" dozen. 

As far as going past 3-4 spins looking for a dominant dozen, such as 5 or 7 spins deep....i've tried it and it does not work nearly as well.  Try it for yourself and you will see.  Roulette changes fast and by focusing on the first dozen to appear twice, you are keeping just one step behind it.

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