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So we get our first dominant dozen and bet it until a win OR until 3 spins, correct?

Whichever comes first, we then look for the new dominant dozen, correct? rinse and repeat

I'm not even bothering with the progression steps yet, until I get the bet selection correct, please advise.

First dominant dozen and bet it for all 3 spins....then STOP!  Did you win or did you lose?  If you win move down in the progression.  If you win move up in the progression.  Then re-evaluate and look for the "new most dominant dozen" and repeat.

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try REVERSING IT you will see its a winner wait for 2 losses then go in bet 2 dozens  hit and run not continuos, 2 to 3 games and and out ,you said you want to bet a 1000$ at a time,the longer you stay the worst it is ,FLAT betting won't work,just my opinion.

Hit and run is not my style.  I am after consistency.  You say "flat betting" won't work, however if I go back over all of my results, I am up, not down flat betting by a slight margin.  The reason I decided to use this minimal progression is b/c the flat betting profits are very very slow.  Like I said, I am going to re-evaluate and adjust it to the style of play I like.

[Colbster]

I am with George on his comments that all systems have their occasional break-downs.  That doesn't mean they are not great systems, and I am beginning to think that yours might fall into that category.  If we are concerned by the progression, there are other ways to play that might be experimented with.  However, the bet selection method is very fresh and easy to play.  I think yours is one of the most exciting new bet selection processes that I have seen.  Don't let a single losing session stop you from moving forward on this.  Good luck!!

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I am with George on his comments that all systems have their occasional break-downs.  That doesn't mean they are not great systems, and I am beginning to think that yours might fall into that category.  If we are concerned by the progression, there are other ways to play that might be experimented with.  However, the bet selection method is very fresh and easy to play.  I think yours is one of the most exciting new bet selection processes that I have seen.  Don't let a single losing session stop you from moving forward on this.  Good luck!!

Thanks.  The reason I like the bet selection is because it is ALWAYS playing the trend or the most dominant dozen in the moment.  It is NOT searching out sleepers which can deplete your profits quicker than anything.  It is attempting to find an appearing hot streak and ride it.  If it changes, it also changes just as quickly.

[superman]

Hit and run is not my style.  I am after consistency.

Mine neither, its a fools joke, again, my opinion, everyone 'should' be after continuation.

You say "flat betting" won't work

Well, since my lasy post/question, I set the bot to play 3 spins per attack, I have done 57 spins so far, see reveal
[reveal]L  Prog 1 Cash -1 Peak 0 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 1 Peak 0 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 0 Peak 1 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash -1 Peak 1 Bet 2
W  Prog 1 Cash 1 Peak 1 Bet 3
L  Prog 1 Cash 0 Peak 1 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 2 Peak 1 Bet 2
W  Prog 1 Cash 4 Peak 2 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 3 Peak 4 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 2 Peak 4 Bet 2
W  Prog 1 Cash 4 Peak 4 Bet 3
L  Prog 1 Cash 3 Peak 4 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 2 Peak 4 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 1 Peak 4 Bet 3
W  Prog 1 Cash 3 Peak 4 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 5 Peak 4 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 7 Peak 5 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 6 Peak 7 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 5 Peak 7 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 4 Peak 7 Bet 3
L  Prog 1 Cash 3 Peak 7 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 2 Peak 7 Bet 2
W  Prog 1 Cash 4 Peak 7 Bet 3
W  Prog 1 Cash 6 Peak 7 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 8 Peak 7 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 7 Peak 8 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 9 Peak 8 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 8 Peak 9 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 10 Peak 9 Bet 2
W  Prog 1 Cash 12 Peak 10 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 14 Peak 12 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 16 Peak 14 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 18 Peak 16 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 17 Peak 18 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 16 Peak 18 Bet 2
W  Prog 1 Cash 18 Peak 18 Bet 3
W  Prog 1 Cash 20 Peak 18 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 22 Peak 20 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 21 Peak 22 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 23 Peak 22 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 22 Peak 23 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 21 Peak 23 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 20 Peak 23 Bet 3
W  Prog 1 Cash 22 Peak 23 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 21 Peak 23 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 20 Peak 23 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 19 Peak 23 Bet 3
L  Prog 1 Cash 18 Peak 23 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 20 Peak 23 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 19 Peak 23 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 21 Peak 23 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 20 Peak 23 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 19 Peak 23 Bet 2
W  Prog 1 Cash 21 Peak 23 Bet 3
W  Prog 1 Cash 23 Peak 23 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 25 Peak 23 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 24 Peak 25 Bet 1[/reveal]

Will keep testing on flat bet if it holds well I will add your progression to it, but with the results so far, there may be a better progression, time will tell

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Mine neither, its a fools joke, again, my opinion, everyone 'should' be after continuation.
 
Well, since my lasy post/question, I set the bot to play 3 spins per attack, I have done 57 spins so far, see reveal
[reveal]L  Prog 1 Cash -1 Peak 0 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 1 Peak 0 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 0 Peak 1 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash -1 Peak 1 Bet 2
W  Prog 1 Cash 1 Peak 1 Bet 3
L  Prog 1 Cash 0 Peak 1 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 2 Peak 1 Bet 2
W  Prog 1 Cash 4 Peak 2 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 3 Peak 4 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 2 Peak 4 Bet 2
W  Prog 1 Cash 4 Peak 4 Bet 3
L  Prog 1 Cash 3 Peak 4 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 2 Peak 4 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 1 Peak 4 Bet 3
W  Prog 1 Cash 3 Peak 4 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 5 Peak 4 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 7 Peak 5 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 6 Peak 7 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 5 Peak 7 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 4 Peak 7 Bet 3
L  Prog 1 Cash 3 Peak 7 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 2 Peak 7 Bet 2
W  Prog 1 Cash 4 Peak 7 Bet 3
W  Prog 1 Cash 6 Peak 7 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 8 Peak 7 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 7 Peak 8 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 9 Peak 8 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 8 Peak 9 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 10 Peak 9 Bet 2
W  Prog 1 Cash 12 Peak 10 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 14 Peak 12 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 16 Peak 14 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 18 Peak 16 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 17 Peak 18 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 16 Peak 18 Bet 2
W  Prog 1 Cash 18 Peak 18 Bet 3
W  Prog 1 Cash 20 Peak 18 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 22 Peak 20 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 21 Peak 22 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 23 Peak 22 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 22 Peak 23 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 21 Peak 23 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 20 Peak 23 Bet 3
W  Prog 1 Cash 22 Peak 23 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 21 Peak 23 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 20 Peak 23 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 19 Peak 23 Bet 3
L  Prog 1 Cash 18 Peak 23 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 20 Peak 23 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 19 Peak 23 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 21 Peak 23 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 20 Peak 23 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 19 Peak 23 Bet 2
W  Prog 1 Cash 21 Peak 23 Bet 3
W  Prog 1 Cash 23 Peak 23 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 25 Peak 23 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 24 Peak 25 Bet 1[/reveal]

Will keep testing on flat bet if it holds well I will add your progression to it, but with the results so far, there may be a better progression, time will tell

I don't know how to follow your results?  What is Cash 24, Peak 25?  That means you are up +25 in units?

Are you playing seperate 3 spin sets then re-evaluating?

[superman]

What is Cash 24, Peak 25?

Cash is current profit/loss

Peak is the highest it's been so far

Are you playing separate 3 spin sets then re-evaluating?

Yes, get dozen, bet it for 3 spins only, example of 2 full losses

L  Prog 1 Cash 29 Peak 39 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 28 Peak 39 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 27 Peak 39 Bet 3
L  Prog 1 Cash 26 Peak 39 Bet 1
L  Prog 1 Cash 25 Peak 39 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 24 Peak 39 Bet 3

2 wins on 2nd attempt

L  Prog 1 Cash 22 Peak 39 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 24 Peak 39 Bet 2
L  Prog 1 Cash 23 Peak 39 Bet 1
W  Prog 1 Cash 25 Peak 39 Bet 2

[warrior]

ok 100 spin test +16 did not go over 1c.

[ADulay]

All,

  As a question to clarify one earlier message I read.....

  Is the "dominant" dozen determined in a minimum of three spins (which is the way I believe it works) or can it be determined in the first two spins?

  There was an earlier message in this thread where the poster asks if "AA" qualifies as a dominant, being only two spins.

  Am I correct in saying you wait until the third spin before declaring the dominant dozen?

  AD

[superman]

or can it be determined in the first two spins?

I would say yes, as stated, the most recent dozen to hit twice, this would only happen when you first start anyway.

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All,

  As a question to clarify one earlier message I read.....

  Is the "dominant" dozen determined in a minimum of three spins (which is the way I believe it works) or can it be determined in the first two spins?

  There was an earlier message in this thread where the poster asks if "AA" qualifies as a dominant, being only two spins.

  Am I correct in saying you wait until the third spin before declaring the dominant dozen?

  AD

It can be determined in the first 2 spins.  If the first two spins are AA we now have our most dominant dozen which is A.  We can start betting right away for A as our "most dominant dozen."  Waiting for the third spin is pointless because dozen A already qualified as our most dominant dozen.  If the third spin is AAB, A is still the dominant dozen.  If the third spin is AAC, A is still the dominant dozen.

[Kattila]

Barcode, what do you think,
Same priciple( dominant/hot  ) can be applyed to any 12 numbers not only to dozens.
I don t know if will work better or not , but maybe...

Ex:
-to Double streets , we bet on the two most hot from the last 6 spins, bet 3 times
  then update  again dominant from the last 6 spins and bet 3 times...
-to streets , bet the most hot 4 streets from the last 12 spins, bet 3 times ,then update
  dominant from the last 12 spins and bet 3 times...
-to numbers, to the most hot 12 numbers from the last 36/37 spins, bet 3 times ,then update
  the most dominant 12 numbers from the last 36 spins and bet 3 times...
-to two hot groups of six numbers like two  hot Global pies groups(again update dominant from
the last 6 spins)....etc..

Now all this needs own progressions.



cheers

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Barcode, what do you think,
Same priciple( dominant/hot  ) can be applyed to any 12 numbers not only to dozens.
I don't know if will work better or not , but maybe...

Ex:
-to Double streets , we bet on the two most hot from the last 6 spins, bet 3 times
  then update  again dominant from the last 6 spins and bet 3 times...
-to streets , bet the most hot 4 streets from the last 12 spins, bet 3 times ,then update
  dominant from the last 12 spins and bet 3 times...
-to numbers, to the most hot 12 numbers from the last 36/37 spins, bet 3 times ,then update
  the most dominant 12 numbers from the last 36 spins and bet 3 times...
-to two hot groups of six numbers like two  hot Global pies groups(again update dominant from
the last 6 spins)....etc..

Now all this needs own progressions.



cheers

I think the results would be the exact same.  No matter what fancy way you decide to do it on the table, random in the end will put it all into perspective.  The math would be the same.  In my opinion the best way to play is the even chances, the closer you can bet to 50/50 the better.  This strategy however does not work with the even chances, so I adapted it to the 2-1 bet of the Dozen's.

[superman]

No matter what fancy way you decide to do it on the table, random in the end will put it all into perspective.  The math would be the same.

I totally agree with that statement.

OK, I have added your progression method to it, please see attached file and check the progression is moving properly up and down, I must say the weak progression is a grind.

Let me know if I am doing it wrong please

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I totally agree with that statement.

OK, I have added your progression method to it, please see attached file and check the progression is moving properly up and down, I must say the weak progression is a grind.

Let me know if I am doing it wrong please

Something is not right.  What does "last 4 mean?"  Also, just about everytime the progression goes back to 1a you should be in profit.