*THE MATRIX SLIDE*

[joiner29]

hi i dont think the question is why it should work, the thing is if it works for any individual person let them carry on and be profitable. I lost but that was always going to happen sometime JL tells everybody this
tom

[warrior]

That's just playing with words. "what ever makes you money" is the "right way" and the "right way" is "what ever makes you money". It says nothing about how to play or why it should work.

Bayes are you playing a system at the moment?and are you making money at it? i think you said you had a method that won on something like a million spins and it beat it ,so what is the problem?

[Johnlegend]

Bayes are you playing a system at the moment?and are you making money at it? I think you said you had a method that won on something like a million spins and it beat it ,so what is the problem?

Warrior, the question is. Why aren't we seeing this world beater? Bayes says every method I use on this forum is nonsense. While at the same time he sits on a HOLY ONE. Baffles the mind Warrior it really does.

[superman]

Baffles the mind Warrior it really does

The way Bayes is playing cannot be tracked with pretty little formed sequences, so yes, it would baffle your mind, if your eye candy works for you, keep going with it guys.

From another thread

c 2 a 2
2 c 1 c
a 3 c 2
3 b 2 c - L 1-1@ col4 (c-c-c-c) Now bet against c forming a reverse diagonal...
a 3 a 1 - W 3-3 @col3 (c-c-c-c-a) 
1 a 1 b     
b 3 a 2

Maybe a grail like method in itself

And when that fails add a new leg to it? it's good to see though, it means someone hit a loss so decided to add/morph from the original, we can see from the poll that most here don't think your methods are any better than anything else, which proves a good point, the odds are the same no matter what trigger makes your decision. It's the hype you provide along with your methods that causes some to disagree with you, and because you have 1 or 2 people desperalty chasing historical patterns (I nearly typed hIsterical) you feel the need to defend.

[ophis]

SLIDE:

Playing Matix SLIDE is like playing Matrix with wider matrix size. (fact)

In MST you have implemented Matrix Turbo! with 5 different matrix sizes (3-7).
The only difference between them is that they are "winning" on different ocasions.

Hit rate or avrage result is not changing.

[superman]

Hit rate or avrage result is not changing

It's all doom and gloom from you today mate 

[Johnlegend]

It's all doom and gloom from you today mate 

No doom and gloom at all. THE MATRIX slide has now more than doubled its progression. Atlantis's brilliant idea to go against a reverse slide. hasn't produced a single loss looking back over more than 200 recorded results.

And Pattern Breaker hasn't shown me a single back to back loss in over three years. If that's doom and gloom long may it continue...

P.s And I will tell you ALL right now, Atlantis may have made the greatest MATRIX RELATED DISCOVERY EVER. It only takes *26* Units to play against a REVERSE CODE SLIDER. And I can't find one in 213 recorded results.

That's something SERIOUS.

[atlantis]

 
c 2 a 2
2 c 1 c
a 3 c 2
3 b 2 c - L 1-1@ col4 (c-c-c-c) Now bet against c forming a reverse diagonal...
a 3 a 1 - W 3-3 @col3 (c-c-c-c-a) 
1 a 1 b     
b 3 a 2
 
And when that fails add a new leg to it? it's good to see though, it means someone hit a loss so decided to add/morph from the original, we can see from the poll that most here don't think your methods are any better than anything else, which proves a good point, the odds are the same no matter what trigger makes your decision. It's the hype you provide along with your methods that causes some to disagree with you, and because you have 1 or 2 people desperalty chasing historical patterns (I nearly typed hIsterical) you feel the need to defend.

JL is right.
Superman, that session snippet is not showing the full picture...
I was just showing how to optionally continue to play on the reverse SLIDE for quicker recoup on a losing QUAD instead of waiting for the next diagonal triple to form before playing against the diagonal quad occurring within a CODE 4 style MATRIX. The full session ended with an expected profit (see code 4 thread)
Yes losses will occur - but can random hit you with 4 of these in a row? Within this sort of mixed doz/col matrix? And playing hit 'n' run?
A.

[Johnlegend]

JL is right.
Superman, that session snippet is not showing the full picture...
I was just showing how to optionally continue to play on the reverse SLIDE for quicker recoup on a losing QUAD instead of waiting for the next diagonal triple to form before playing against the diagonal quad occurring within a CODE 4 style MATRIX. The full session ended with an expected profit (see code 4 thread)
Yes losses will occur - but can random hit you with 4 of these in a row? Within this sort of mixed doz/col matrix? And playing hit 'n' run?
A.

Not in any hurry Atlantis. I am thinking of waiting for A slide to form. Then betting against it producing the reverse. I have a staggering 213 unplayed winners in my results. And for a 26 unit risk. This is some discovery Youve made here Atlantis. It really is.

[superman]

can random hit you with 4 of these in a row?

Of course it can.

Within this sort of mixed doz/col matrix?

I believe it can, and so do others.

And playing hit 'n' run?

As hit n run is the grey area, you 'could' be lucky for a long time, a very long time indeed BUT knowing that it can arrive is all some of us need to know and that's all we are saying, if he didn't hype these picture methods the discussions wouldn't get so argumentative but he can't see the woods for the trees.

Ask yourself this, if he has been playing for many many years with his 'trusted' fail safe methods, then why does he keep bringing new ones to the forum? the answer is they fail eventually and he losses so invents a new one, let's face it, he's the luckiest bloke on the planet, someone has to be why not him?

[atlantis]

I am thinking of waiting for A slide to form. Then betting against it producing the reverse. I have a staggering 213 unplayed winners in my results. And for a 26 unit risk.

Wow! OK. I see. If it's a rare enough event, Yes - it could be very strong.

A.

[Johnlegend]

Of course it can.
 
I believe it can, and so do others.
 
As hit n run is the grey area, you 'could' be lucky for a long time, a very long time indeed BUT knowing that it can arrive is all some of us need to know and that's all we are saying, if he didn't hype these picture methods the discussions wouldn't get so argumentative but he can't see the woods for the trees.

Ask yourself this, if he has been playing for many many years with his 'trusted' fail safe methods, then why does he keep bringing new ones to the forum? the answer is they fail eventually and he losses so invents a new one, let's face it, he's the luckiest bloke on the planet, someone has to be why not him?

Theres no such thing as luck Superman. ITS TIMING and nothing else.

You are getting tit for tat now. I don't abandon my methods and move to the next, I've been playing PATTERN BREAKER for three and a half years. And for a 7 unit buy in and scarceness of double losses. Its a method I will use for the rest of my life. At the same time there is always room for improvement. So don't try to bring feeble excuses as to why I keep pushing for perfection.

You are not taking so much onboard Here, overcoming your inherent scepticism will be a lot harder than overcoming randoms ebb and flow for any of us...

[warrior]

To be skeptical is ok it is what protects us in this world,to be cynical well i really have no time for people like this ,to superman and bayes if you 2 love birds have nothing good to say fly away i have seen nothing good come out of you both, if you want to share anything please do ,if you want to save the world in 60 min. spend 55 min on the problem and 5 mins on the rest ,and show all of us how to play ROULETTE.

[superman]

ITS TIMING and nothing else

So, how do you know if the time is right? I'm not tit for tating, just reiterating what's going on. If it's timing then surely luck plays a BIG part in that, if your timing was out you could hit 4 losses a day forever, that's the point we/I are trying to make.

We can't approach a table if there is no clue as to when the time is right as we will only know AFTER the crash if the timing was right or wrong, so please, justify TIMING as it's this hit n run thing that's the real issue NOT the methods.

I've been playing PATTERN BREAKER for three and a half years

Very similar to what you said about the zone, hype again I think.

[Johnlegend]

So, how do you know if the time is right? I'm not tit for tating, just reiterating what's going on. If it's timing then surely luck plays a BIG part in that, if your timing was out you could hit 4 losses a day forever, that's the point we/I are trying to make.

We can't approach a table if there is no clue as to when the time is right as we will only know AFTER the crash if the timing was right or wrong, so please, justify TIMING as it's this hit n run thing that's the real issue NOT the methods.
 
Very similar to what you said about the zone, hype again I think.

Superman step back, you have it in for me I realize that. Im not going to labour over this with you. If you dont get it, you dont get it.

As Warrior says you and Bayes are the negatives against our positives. You already believe nothing works so theres nothing to add.