Guilty Gear EC...

[birdhands]

The set of 19 unique numbers has been 43 spins long.  Not only that, but I saw it go from 32 to 40 without a new number one time.  Optimist found the same thing (43).  Amazing how on RX the actual ECs are still so short.  What's the longest interval (you know, including the 0; the 12 million data set had a 29)?

[iancloud2001]

I see the max sleeper being 28 intervals (on 1-18 Low), and only happened once in 30 Million spins. Which is undoubtedly due to a few zeros happening. Also, I'm starting to think that we should be looking at dozens or something. We can easily get 12 unique spins in a ROW, then bet against it for 4 steps (the dozens only repeat for 15 spins max).

[birdhands]

Keep in mind that the 6 ECs you're testing only go for 29 spins, while the other 2 or 3 hundred million that we're testing manually have already gone to 43.  It will be the same for the dozens: if the 3 standard ones go to 15, then the other 500,000,000 will go to 22 or higher.

[iancloud2001]

You say there have been 43 sleepers? Were there 19 unique numbers in a row, and then they kept repeating for an additional 24 spins? I think therein lies our problem. We may need to be strict about having a certain amount of uniques in a row. However, finding 19 in a row is problematic, which is why I suggested betting against 12 unique numbers. That seems more feasible. What say you?

[birdhands]

I don't see why they have to be in a row at all.  I like your idea, though; why not double streets or even streets?  It should be much simpler to track.  I'll start testing.

[iancloud2001]

Yeah, I've been looking at Streets and especially Double Streets. Problem with those is that you'll need a really high bank roll. But if you have it, I don't see why it wouldn't hurt, especially if it didn't lose.

[birdhands]

It basically all comes down to repeats.  In order for there to be 43 spins with only 19 unique numbers we need 24 repeats, which is highly unusual.  The usual distribution would be 29 uniques and 14 repeats. 
So now I just put the wheel on autospin and watch the marquis like a hawk.  When I see a lot of repeats close together I stop the wheel and count.  So for instance I just saw:

4
4
28
33
2
27
33
35
4
that's a double street hitting 9 times in a row, a good time to bet on the other 30 numbers.

[iancloud2001]

You are correct. In my now 40 Million spin sample a double street has repeated for 12 spins in a row. But it only happened once and on Line [7-12].  It's usually 9 MAX. What were your results after that spin sample you just posted?

[birdhands]

Wow I haven't seen more than 10 so far.  That example would have been a win.

edit:  ok, I just saw an 11.

[iancloud2001]

OK, so i'm thinking that we will see custom patterns getting into the higher end of the results since there are literally 2.3 Million combinations of 6 numbers within a 37 number set. So there will always be the chance of the patterns going up to 12, maybe 13 in a row (with Double Streets).