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Started by iancloud2001, Oct 04, 12:47 PM 2011

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iancloud2001

Hello again, fellow roulette players. I have another system for you to try out. Probably been done to death before, but I find it interesting nonetheless. I was doing some thinking, what makes any EC bet so special? Or even any specific table bet, for that matter? Let's really think about this, RED consists of the numbers

1,3,5,7,9,12,14,16,18,19,21,23,25,27,30,32,34,36.

Other than the fact that Red and Black alternate on a real wheel, on RNG there really is no pattern. It's a mixture of even numbers and odd numbers, high and low as well. Yet, when you look at the results for 12 MILLION spins, every single EC wager is nearly identical (well, at least evenly distributed). Similar amounts of max repeats, max intervals, and spins.

Low    5937712     5938054.05     -0.20     1     22     1     1     25
High   5937473     5938054.05     -0.33     1     22     0     1     23
Red    5938269     5938054.05     0.12       1     22     0     1     23
Black  5936916     5938054.05     -0.65     1     21     2     1     29
Odd    5936299     5938054.05     -1.01     1     21     1     1     24
Even   5938886     5938054.05     0.48      1     23     0     1     23

^^not mine. taken from a roulette forum, don't know who to credit for that, sorry^^

Basically, you can see that the MAX repeat of any EC is 23 in a row, and the MAX interval is 29 (probably because a few zeros interfered). Then what's the difference between that and randomly picking out your own numbers to make a bet? Whether it be 18 random numbers to make an EC, or 12 for a Dozen, 6 for a Double Street, etc...


The System:
So I thought about spinning the wheel until I have 19 UNIQUE numbers, then I will bet on the opposing 18 numbers with a basic martingale progression. I'm letting random create my EC bet for me. Once you achieve a win, you need to retrack or even better, close your window (RNG) and start a fresh session. It's been working for me so far, and usually before the fourth level of the progression, no higher. Try it, and tell me what you think about it and post your results! Thanks everyone.

Real Example:

27
16
23
15
4
9
21
19
11
14
32
29
31
34
20
23
23
7
6
6
25
8

^^ Those are 19 unique numbers. It took 22 spins, due to repeats, to get there. ^^

So I then bet 1 unit each on the 18 leftover numbers. 0,1,2,3,5,10,12,13,17,18,22,24,26,28,30,33,35,36.

I hit the number 5 on the immediate spin afterwards for a WIN of 18 units...

J.Bravo

Hi Iancloud2001

Thanks for sharing your system.
What you do when a new number coming up?
Just add to your progression or you just play with that 18 unique numbers?

Regards
J.Bravo

birdhands

Great idea.  How do you track the numbers?


@Bravo, he said he uses a marty.  Otherwise there would be no profit.  So I'm guessing:


18
36
72
144 (table limits?)

birdhands

Also, we would need a 5 step marty to cover 23 unique numbers.  So BR would have to be 558.

J.Bravo

I think You are right Birdhands

iancloud2001

Hey guys, thanks for taking interest in my system.

As far as new numbers are concerned, it's absolutely best to simply start a fresh session by closing the window, and starting over. If you don't want to do that, you should retrack by disregarding those past spins, including the spin that you won on, and start anew. So in my example, I would forget about everything I just saw, and freespin after that 5 I hit, until I have a new set of 19 unique numbers. And repeat the process.

Also, birdhands is 100% correct! That's exactly my theory. That's the progression.



birdhands

Yeah, but how do you actually track the numbers?  I mean, it's not all that easy to recognize when 19 numbers are unique just by looking at them.  Maybe I'm just too wimpy.

birdhands

Betvoyager autoplay is super fast; that would be a good way.  The European wheel has big enough table limits, too.  Eventually we could ask Madmax to make us a tracker.

iancloud2001

Well, tracking is pretty easy. Just freespin the wheel 19 times, then start from the bottom, and count how many unique numbers there are. If there aren't 19 unique numbers, you will have to freespin until you have that amount. Try it, it's easy!

Drazen

Playing marty on straight numbers? You gotta be kidding... RNG is not roulette. RNG is for suckers.  And waiting 19 uniques in real play, well you would gave up after first attempt LOL
Regards



Drazen

iancloud2001

Listen, we are not waiting for 19 uniques in a row, you just need 19 unique numbers to create your bet. You could get 19 uniques in 19 spins or in 30 spins. It doesn't matter, as long as you count 19.

Also, playing a "marty" on 18 straight numbers is exactly the same as betting a martingale on ANY EC bet. Only difference is that you must start with 18 units, instead if 1 unit. And if you really wanted to, you could bet at a casino with lower table limits, like .10 cents, so you can start off the progression with $1.80, then $3.60, etc.

By the way, drazen_cro, you can win and lose just about the same in live roulette as you can with RNG online. I think it's safe to say that after 12 Million spins, the results would be the same for RNG and Live roulette. So please don't bring up such tired subjects. It's getting old.

Drazen

Quote from: iancloud2001 on Oct 04, 03:17 PM 2011

By the way, drazen_cro, you can win and lose just about the same in live roulette as you can with RNG online. I think it's safe to say that after 12 Million spins, the results would be the same for RNG and Live roulette. So please don't bring up such tired subjects. It's getting old.
Yes the results would be maybe similar but not the sum on your account. You don't know what you are talking about, nor obviously principals on which are working gambling RNG-s? They are programed to have wanted amount on the end of the month, not to produce PURE random. Now it is your luck if they will take most of your account funds to have wanted amount or only little of it ,or give you something. There are many players there, you know. And one day when you enter RNG casino, they will be waiting for you outside...Be sure about that.
Regards


Drazen

superman

QuoteBy the way, drazen_cro, you can win and lose just about the same in live roulette as you can with RNG online. I think it's safe to say that after 12 Million spins, the results would be the same for RNG and Live roulette. So please don't bring up such tired subjects. It's getting old

Yup, I have to agree with you there, I have tested on all platforms and guess what, for chops of red/black LIVE wheel has had the most for me, Dublinbet, I posted about it a while ago I think there were about 19 RBRBRB....... and NO ZERO in between, atleast RNG has the decency to chuck a zero at you during a chop.

@ drazen, the only thing about your statement that I agree with is the use of marty, its not safe, very risky, but the rest, mate, it's a bit blunt.
There's only one way forward, follow random, don't fight with it!

Ignore a thread/topic that mentions 'stop loss', 'virtual loss' and also when a list is provided of a progression, mechanical does NOT work!

birdhands

Quote from: iancloud2001 on Oct 04, 03:17 PM 2011
Listen, we are not waiting for 19 uniques in a row, you just need 19 unique numbers to create your bet. You could get 19 uniques in 19 spins or in 30 spins. It doesn't matter, as long as you count 19.




I think they have to be in a row,; that's why I was saying it would be hard to track.

Juiced91

Quote from: birdhands on Oct 04, 03:33 PM 2011

I think they have to be in a row,; that's why I was saying it would be hard to track.

The guy that made the system said they dont have to be in a row. So then they dont have to

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