Roulette Accumulator

[Maui13]

Roulette Accumulator, playing roulette, every couple of spins....the WHOLE day!!! Is this possible?
I am not able to say until members on this forum would be willing to help test this out, as laid out in this post. The idea is to get as many spins behind us, to be able to say, yes we can....or no we can't.This is not posted in notepad, as I've played it over 800 spins with profit. Yes not a lot, I agree, but that's why it's posted in this awesome forum   


Let me start off by saying that I really would appreciate feedback. Bad or good. If you have bad criticism however, I do expect you to test before giving judgement.


This system is based on the "matrix" idea, that has created systems like CODE 4 etc. etc.


BUT, what makes this different, is the progression and way it's played. OK, lets start with the a sample.


You will be betting for the SAME dozen, after 4 spins. So 4 spins go by, marked in the CODE 4 manner. You then bet 1 unit, for the same dozen.


Progression:


1, 1/1, 2/2, 4,4 = Total units 15


1 B 1 B  - track 4 spins
1 C 2 B  - 1 bet on first dozen, for the same. So here we bet 1 unit on 1. This is a win, so we are +2


Easy!!!! Ok, the next step would be, what if we lost on the first bet???
This is also very easy! Let's continue betting, from where we started.



3 B 1 C - Here we would bet that it's a 1 again. But the 3rd dozen comes up. So now we are -1
                BUT we don't stop. We continue betting, but changing the type of bet, to betting against
                the code to come, and changing the unit size completely. This is where the strength
                comes in. We then bet AGAINST the code. So we put down 1 unit each on column A & B.
                Here we won, so the betting stops. You'll find now, that we are break even at 0, so                                                                               
                so nothing lost, and nothing gained. Let's try another example. We continue the cycle of
                spins so we have 4 and we carry on to the next betting.

3 A 2 B - We bet for the 3 to fall (1 unit). So we are +2, we won, so complete the 4 spins.
1 B 0 C - We bet for a 3 to fall, (1 unit). Dozen 1 falls, we are -1, we move to the next bet, but bet     
                AGAINST column A. We bet 1 unit on B & C, B falls. We are back to 0. We finish the cycle
                to 4, and start betting again. (Notice the ZERO, ignore that line. We retrack 4 more spins)


2 C 3 C - New 4 spins
1 C 3 C - Bet for 2, 1 falls (-1) Bet against C, C falls, (-2) Bet against 3, 3 falls (-4), Bet against
                C, C falls (-8) So a total down of -15. The beautiful part of this, is the way it plays catch up
                hence the name - Accumulator


So the MAIN aim of the game, is to catch the streaks to benefit of the single unit on the dozen. Hopefully catch a win in the remaining 3 to get it to balance out to 0. If this doesn't happen, continue playing and see how it just crawls in those 15 that's been lost. Another nice part, you have to play continuously to make the most of this.


If a zero forms part of your betting, take it as a loss, and complete the betting sequence.Once the sequence is done, re track 4 new spins to have a sequence with no zero in it.Then start betting again.


I don't really know how to explain it any better than this. I can add spins in an excel sheet, where I perhaps show how I bet.


Thought that I would add that for you anyway.The only draw down so far is, that this takes time!
Please take a look, if you have any questions please let me know.


Regards
Maui

[marivo]

Instead of 80 we risk 15, that's the essence?

[GLC]

Maui13,


I just noticed a problem with your progression.


1; 1-1; 2-2; 4-4


If you lose 1 you are -1
If you bet 1-1 and win you are 0
If you bet 1-1 and lose you are -3
If you bet 2-2 and win you are still -1
If you bet 2-2 and lose you are -7
If you bet 4-4 and win you are still -3
If you bet 4-4 and lose you are -15


If you lose 1 you are -1
If you bet 1-1 and win you are 0
If you bet 1-1 and lose you are -3
If you bet 3-3 and win you are 0
If you bet 3-3 and lose you are -9
If you bet 9-9 and win you are 0
If you bet 9-9 and lose you are -27


I didn't realize this mistake until I started testing if on my own.


It's still a great idea because it saves 1 step which is a 27-27 step.  That's a big step.


GLC

[Tomla021]

seems like a very clever idea.......good luck on it

[GLC]

I replayed your spreadsheet using some different progressions.


1)  Your 1; 1-1; 2-2; 4-4    Ended +53  Not bad at all.  Actually extremely good.  Only lost 22 units by winning on the 2-2 (-1) and 4-4 (-3).  Still only -15 on a total loss.


2)  1; 1-1; 3-3; 9-9    Ended at +63.  Even better.  This is the progression that gives you a +2 on the 1st 1 win and a 0 win on the next 3 bets.  -27 on a total loss.


3)  1; 2-2; 6-6; 18-18  Ended at +90.  Best yet.  This progression gives +2 if the 1 wins and +1 if any of the next 3 wins.  -53 on a total loss.


Granted this was a winning session, so any bet like the above will result in a win.


On a losing session, #1 will lose the least, #2 a little more and #3 the most.


My analysis of your spins are that you had a very high percentage of 1 unit bet wins.  I know it is higher than will be the average.


This system, in my opinion, is still very worthy of more testing.

Once again.  Nice job.


GLC

[GLC]

Instead of 80 we risk 15, that's the essence?

With your original progression, this is still the case!

If we wanted, we could bet 1; 1-1; 2-2; 3-3  for +2; 0; -1; -4,  but on -13 on a total loss.

How about 1; 1; 2-2; 6-6 for +2; or +1; or 0; or 0 and only -18 on a total loss.

Maybe 1; 1; 2-2; 5-5 for +2; or +1; or 0; or -1 and only -16 on a total loss.

Sorry for going crazy on this while all you guys East of here are sleeping.

It'll be interesting to see how things develop when you wake up.

[Maui13]

My sincere apologies. I thought that for some reason it was too good to be true. 


Thanks for pointing that out GLC! 


I really like you progressions. I also agree that the session was most probably bias (even though true results)  The fact remains that due to streaks and just pure luck, I reckon we can get away with a majority wins on the first outcome.


I am no guru when it comes to progression, so if you could perhaps pick the better one of your creations, I will start testing and let you know.


I do think that this might be for the player who wants to sit and grind away with a good outcome!


Regards,
Maui

[Maui13]

f we wanted, we could bet 1; 1-1; 2-2; 3-3  for +2; 0; -1; -4,  but on -13 on a total loss.

How about 1; 1; 2-2; 6-6 for +2; or +1; or 0; or 0 and only -18 on a total loss.

Maybe 1; 1; 2-2; 5-5 for +2; or +1; or 0; or -1 and only -16 on a total loss.

So...


Option A - is betting for 1, then against x 3
Option B - is betting for x 2, then betting against x 2
Option C - is betting for x 2, then betting against x 2


Does option B & C not in a way decrease our odds? Just a question. I like option C, as it gives the addition of +1 on the 2nd bet, 0 on the 3rd and only -1 on the fourth with a total down of only -16. Even on a bad run, I think this would catch up! 


Regards,
Maui

[Maui13]

Playing Option C  1,1,2/2,5/5


2 C 1 B
3 B 2 C
2 C 3 B
3 C 2 A  +1
3 C 0 B  +2
2 A 3 B  - Retrack
1 C 2 B
3 C 3 B  +1
1 C 1 B  +1
2 C 3 C  +1
1 B 2 C 
1 B 2 C  +1
3 B 2 A  +1
2 B 2 A  +1
2 C 1 B  +2
1 C 3 A  +1
3 B 2 B 
3 A 1 C  +2
3 A 2 A  +2
3 0 3 B  +2
0 C 2 C - Retrack, another zero
1 A 2 B - Retrack again
3 C 2 0  -16
2 B 0 B - Retrack
1 B 3 B  +1
3 A 1 C
3 C 2 B  +2
3 A 1 B  +2
3 A 3 A  +2


Ended up with +9 even after we had a -16 in there...
I think this can work!!!


Regards,
Maui

[Maui13]

1684 spins


Used  1, 1,2/2,5/5 progression


The session was one from HELL and the profit was only + 29, but there were many zero's and many full line losses...so walking away with + was a good sign.
An observation I made was that if I had played 1,1, 2/2 (3 step progression) my profit would have been +34. Not a big difference, but just note.


GLC, your opinion???


Regards,
Maui

[viclimks]

Anyone still testing..........

[GLC]

Still looking at this with Maui's 1, 1-1, 2-2, 4-4 progression.  Trying to establish a good method to recover all or a big part of a -15 unit loss.


Any ideas?