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Started by RouletteExplorer, Oct 14, 07:34 AM 2011

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F_LAT_INO

Quote from: RouletteExplorer on Oct 14, 02:09 PM 2011
Ok I had enough from the idiots of this forum....

From now on I will be doing everything alone.....forums never helped in any way.....

Bye


--Bye......bet you will be back soon......some will miss you....alone is the way 8) 8)
You can always get me on  
ivica.boban@ri.t-com.hr

mr.ore

Be aware, your method probably does not work because of variance, if some number sleeps too long, it draws all profits and you don't have a stoploss. Street can be hitting less than it should for thousands of spins, and with house edge effect it won't simply recover...

mr.ore

This is probably your system on streets or close, no reset on new max:
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cannot make sure it is implemented correctly, it was obvious it would fail on a street hitting less than expected for prolonged time.

Drazen

Safest thing to bet here is that RE will come back one day under different name. So called saint grall.  Place your bets please!  8)

Regards

Drazen

Robeenhuut

Quote from: drazen_cro on Oct 14, 02:47 PM 2011
Safest thing to bet here is that RE will come back one day under different name. So called saint grall.  Place your bets please!  8)

Regards

Drazen

Hello

Lets get somebody with most seniority here to be a bookie and accept bets on this event. We just have to agree on the odds.   Anybody? :wink:


Regards
Matt

mr.ore

Let us be honest - only thing we can do is to discover how to predict random. It's oxymoron. We NEED magic there, seriously  >:D

I'm seriously thinking of finding way how to predict random, it's the latest stadium in gambler's evolution though...

Something like if number y hit after number x and x was red and y was black, then next time x hits bet red because we do not see "repeater" on number twice in a row so often, ie. we do not excpect pair xy to come twice without some xz inbetween. Track all pairs of numbers to control variance... lol, I suppose it won't work as a magic oraculum, because sometimes it should fail and it will fail...

Johnlegend

Quote from: mr.ore on Oct 14, 02:58 PM 2011
Let us be honest - only thing we can do is to discover how to predict random. It's oxymoron. We NEED magic there, seriously  >:D

I'm seriously thinking of finding way how to predict random, it's the latest stadium in gambler's evolution though...

Something like if number y hit after number x and x was red and y was black, then next time x hits bet red because we do not see "repeater" on number twice in a row so often, ie. we do not excpect pair xy to come twice without some xz inbetween. Track all pairs of numbers to control variance... LoL, I suppose it won't work as a magic oraculum, because sometimes it should fail and it will fail...
There is no stopping randoms ebb and flow. That should be basic knowledge to even the greenest of players. We are playing a percentage game here. Nothing more, nothing less. When your method is able to put those percentages into positive figures you have the game beaten.

This constant quest for the unbreakable method is where so many get lost. And waste so much precious time. Search not for the method that never tanks, but for the method that overall delivers a profit. But let this be known, lazy and unfocused players/students of this game will never succeed. Regardless of what's put before them.

You will have to work harder at this game than any day job to conquer it. Make no mistake about that. Too many casual observers. And Mr can't be bothered types. Saunter in and out of these forums. Expecting a holy grail to be handed to them. Thinking its their birth right or something for joining a roulette forum. You have a hell of a lot of hard graft and more hard graft ahead of you if you want to succeed.

Because you must prove to yourself. And yourself ALONE. That a method works. Only then will you truly move forward. And this requires serious hard word and hours put in on a real wheel. Not a man-made number cruncher or rng. There are no shortcuts.

jarabo002

Thank you RouletteExplorer for this system and another ones for your replyes.

¿Could somebody code it on RX to see what happens in a long term?

Thank you ;)
Uno de Badajoz que pasaba por aquí.

MadMax

I would really feel sorrow if Re would leave the forum.
I really respect everyone who shares his/her ideas here with others and tries to beat the game. That dosn´t mean that I agree to everyones opinion, and I also will advert to a mistake or to my opposed opinion. But I respect really everyones share to this forum.
And by the way, I don´t think this method is so bad. Just my two cents.

mr.ore

In long term it will happen that there would be somewhat larger group of sleeping streets than usual, and the other streets would be hitting above average, and this state would last too long for system to recover or make profit. After it starts hitting "as expected", the bet might be high enough to recover by decreasing by 1 unit on win, and when accidentally another state of low hit ratio kicks in, it would never recover. This system will probably recover on no zero roulette, but drawdowns would be also big because of fluctuation. On standard roulette it would suffer from the same disease as D'Alembert.

mr.ore

To RE:

QuoteBut as I said above the maths(averages) say that in the long run the streets(or any bet) must hit equal!So the streets that has left veryyyy behind according to the standard deviation have to hit more often in order to make a balance(we don't even need a perfect balance to be in a new profit,because the MM of the system is kicking in and taking care of that  ;)  )

That's not true, and that's why your system fails. While percentages of hits should balance, absolute numbers of hits does not. If you see in 200 spins 50 reds and 150 blacks (z-score -7, still possible, with simulations I have seen that z-score "has a limit" around -8.5), then you CAN'T expect red to start hit more because of this, not even in a future thousands spins. You can bet that in next 200 spins there would be greater balance, but that would not be caused by history.

Because you expect more hits in future, your money management does not recover well, you need more aggression (but it's impossible because we want realistic table limits).

This is the reason that nobody replied, because we have seen and made such methods before, and they ain't work...

Kingspin

Flatino was a little nasty to Roulette Explorer , roulette explorer has put a lot of effort in to his systems and a lot of time spent typing , i think fatino has upset him .  Over sensitive maybe  ???
You cant always loose , but when you do loose you will win it all back.

hamsup_sotong

well what i dont understand about Re is this. He continuously lambast systems claiming that it'll never beat the proverbial 2.7. And then proceeds to post methods that dont provide any reasonable way of beating his "2.7" anyway. Pot calling the kettle black i say.

BUt that being said he does make the effort of posting quite a lot ... so there

cheers
hamsup

MrJ

My advice guys.......when you post a method, leave all the adjectives out. Don't get so excited: 'its the best system ever', 'I can't get it to lose' etc.

Post it and move on.

Ken
Watch us big doggs, the MEN, play at a REAL casino, on a REAL table. All we ask is that you stay out of our way. The rest? Bots, airball, RNG...that's more for the Kitty Kat Klub. Its the big doggs and the kittens!! Winning is not an event, it's a process and it takes YEARS and YEARS to master > link:://:.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014127/rs_560x415-140227131132-1024.bulldog-kittens3.jpg... To be great, you have to be willing to be mocked, hated and misunderstood.

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