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Started by GLC, Oct 15, 06:52 PM 2011

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Ralph

Why not try 1,2,3,5 progression, and take small losses, instead of a rare killer?

Why not try 1,2,3,5 and always run the progressions if we win or not?

If the progression becomes negative or positive depends then on the random outcome.

The best way to fail, is not to try!

GLC

Quote from: Ralph on Aug 05, 04:04 AM 2012
Why not try 1,2,3,5 progression, and take small losses, instead of a rare killer?

Why not try 1,2,3,5 and always run the progressions if we win or not?

If the progression becomes negative or positive depends then on the random outcome.

I am in panic mode at my job and also personal life which leaves me almost no time for forum.
If you have any new ideas on this topic, please post them for us.  I at least have time to read them.
New ideas used on old ideas can sometimes be an improvement on the old idea.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Ralph

I did some testing on BV European roulette. One problem is I have to bet tracking.
When we get two of the kind (red or black) we bet four times using progression 1,2,3,5.

If the outcome is four of the opposite we win 1+2+3+5.
If the first is a loss, and the second a win, the third and fourth a win we win 3+5
If the first and second is a loss, and we win the third and fourth we win  5
If the four first is a loss and the last win we are -1,

There are other combinations, some gives loss, the worse all lost -11.

I tested manual, somebody may  run it a large number of trials using a script, to see it it can recover losses.

We may try to recover using  2 4 6 10.

I have much other testing to do, may try more when I got more time.
The best way to fail, is not to try!

albertojonas

Quote from: ego on Aug 05, 03:18 AM 2012
I search for this post as find it very intressting ...
I been thinking to test this using Marigny and the law of series ...

When series chop with no singles present and you get 3.00 STD wich is not uncommon.
But it is very uncommon that you hit 3.00 STD where series chop being higher series only.

Singles has the value of 1
Series of two has the value of 0
Series of three has the value of 1

Does is that i would like to catch using the progression mention above.
So only when higher series are present and chop towards 3.00 STD would we recive draw-downs.

Series of four has the value of 2
Series of five has the value of 3
Series of six has the value of 4
Series of seven has the value of 5

And so on


Hi Ego, i have 2 questions on calculating ecart:


1. the values of each series length are input in the ecart formula? if so does a series of seven counts as five events? -or counts as one event and has the value of 5?


2. What is the "ideal" window of events to measure this imbalances?




Cheers,
Al

rayhd63

HI George,

I have a question, since I don't get at the moment....

If my win is at folowing stage :

1 2 3

1 3 6

2 4 8

2 6* here I would (finally) win

from where would my next bet be ?!?
Starting back at 1 2 3 ?

or would I go backwards from

2 4 8

1 3 6

1 2 4

or even reverse

4 2 1

6 3 1

4 2 1

?!?

Ray

Stepkevh

You stay at the 2-6-12 level  until you get a new high.
SO if you win at "6", then you bet "2", if it wins "2" again, if loss bet "6" and so on til new high

Then you can reset to the first level (1-2-4)
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

rayhd63

.....so I stay in the 2 6 12 progression sequence until I reach my last high.

Should the 2 6 12 loose I then move to 3 6 12 and after a win stay there till in plus

......if I loose that I move to 3 9 18 etc.... 

I think I got it now .

Thanks  :D

Stepkevh

Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

GLC

Quote from: Stepkevh on Aug 20, 09:23 AM 2012
You stay at the 2-6-12 level  until you get a new high.
SO if you win at "6", then you bet "2", if it wins "2" again, if loss bet "6" and so on til new high

Then you can reset to the first level (1-2-4)

Thanks for the help Stepkevh. :thumbsup:
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Stepkevh

No problem GLC  ;D

I'm a fast learner and most of the times understand something quickly  :)

Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

ego

Did you ever ask what a trend look like ? and what its based upon ?

This is for better understanding about STD and probability, bell curve movement or reading random flow into current states, devision.
I believe in charting where you can see and observe the movement of the current states of the random flow.
Each state is its own property of events.

With the help of devision you can understand when the random flow current state grow and get stronger or getting weaker based upon what you aim to catch.
So you can read the random flows current states based upon math and probability calculations.
That way you can stop chasing for events and start to use tendency play where you embrace events.

Just to say ... Hey i can chart the random flow with pen and paper in a real casino,,, and read random current movement/states and understand when its hovering around the mean or getting imbalance in one other direction ... stronger or weaker based upon your choice of playing model.

You move from gamblers fallacy and use Markow Chains methodology of random property states.
You move into the territory where you trending based upon almost the same principals as some areas in stock market .

Marigny style and the math values behind the events.
Smaller series contra larger series.

This is for better understanding about STD and probability, bell curve movement or reading random flow into current states, devision.

1. Series of two has the value of 1
2. Series of three has the value of 0
3. Series of four has the value of 1
4. Series of five has the value of 2
5. Series of six has the value of 3
6. Series of seven has the value of 4
7. And so it continues

John Patrick style ... pick one dominant, one side of the distribution and stick to it.
See the random flow with two opposite colors as two roads with there own random flow of current states.
Good MM and three banks should do it.

Here is an simple chart that I did a long time ago with some values that you can use as reference.



Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego

Other playing model is to observe the regression towards the mean.

Singles has the value of 1
Series has the value of 1 (no matter length)

I will show the charting method with the probability and math behind the random states property.
Playing model is pretty much the same as above, but with different approach ...
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

Serendipity

does anyone still playing this method?
seems very interesting...

Adrian
Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right!

teo

Quote from: Serendipity on Jun 19, 03:05 PM 2013
does anyone still playing this method?
seems very interesting...

Adrian

Nobody plays anything here.....only testers hopping to find a golden egg one day.....this century,
next...who knows......probably never.

ego

Quote from: Serendipity on Jun 19, 03:05 PM 2013
does anyone still playing this method?
seems very interesting...

Adrian

Yes it is very interesting to read what a trend I based upon, among other.
Don't worry so much about the golden eggs, I have them and sharing, among others.

You just have to pin point out and understand what is what.
No one would wait for a 3.0 STD and wait for events to show and bet, almost all gamblers are action players.
At least now you know that bell curve has no limits and that regression towards the mean is also a present state.
It can continue or end and imbalance can start to grow, so do you bet before that or after that happens and what is the odds, math and probability, well they are not the same.

You can convert this methodology I write about towards working playing models for blackjack, baccarat, roulette, sic bo and sport-betting ...
Its a big ocean with waves = current random property states with certain events that you can follow and understand and act upon.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

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