• Welcome to #1 Roulette Forum & Message Board | www.RouletteForum.cc.

News:

Odds and payouts are different things. If either the odds or payouts don't change, then the result is the same - eventual loss.

Main Menu
Popular pages:

Roulette System

The Roulette Systems That Really Work

Roulette Computers

Hidden Electronics That Predict Spins

Roulette Strategy

Why Roulette Betting Strategies Lose

Roulette System

The Honest Live Online Roulette Casinos

EC, No Trolling

Started by albertojonas, Jun 02, 07:48 AM 2012

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

albertojonas

Quote from: Bettor 27 on Jun 10, 10:45 AM 2012
Thanks AJ - can you elaborate further regarding how you used to play this?

Regards

B27

For everyone that as doubts regarding the Bet Selection, please check this thread:

link:://rouletteforum.cc/the-notepad/14/ec/9552/


Tomla021

the way i am reading it is you only play after losses ,,, wl x time to play, wlll x time to play etc --seems brilliant


can be used on any bet selection that you like
"No Whining, just Winning"

GLC

Quote from: Tomla021 on Jun 10, 07:12 PM 2012
the way i am reading it is you only play after losses ,,, wl x time to play, wlll x time to play etc --seems brilliant


can be used on any bet selection that you like


Looks like we only bet after the 1st L.  then we have to wait for at least 1 W then we can bet after the next L.  Is this right?


GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

albertojonas

Quote from: GLC on Jun 10, 07:31 PM 2012

Looks like we only bet after the 1st L.  then we have to wait for at least 1 W then we can bet after the next L.  Is this right?


GLC
correct :thumbsup: but that is only the pricipal of it. >:D
it depends on the lw registry each bs provides...
another option is to attack after a win that comes after a series of losses

Robeenhuut

Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 10, 07:51 PM 2012
correct :thumbsup: but that is only the pricipal of it. >:D
it depends on the lw registry each bs provides...
another option is to attack after a win that comes after a series of losses

Hello AJ

RRBRRRRBRRRRRBRBRRRRBR

U see this sequence quite often. Betting R after 1 VL u have 5W n 0L  :D

On d other hand 

RBBBRRRRBBBRRBBBRRRR  happens quite often 2

Playing FTL after 1 VL gives u 6W n 0L  ;D

Important is 2 always bet after 1 VL n after either W or L stop n wait 4 next VL

Regards
Matt

albertojonas

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 10, 11:06 PM 2012
Hello AJ

RRBRRRRBRRRRRBRBRRRRBR

U see this sequence quite often. Betting R after 1 VL You have 5W n 0L  :D

On d other hand 

RBBBRRRRBBBRRBBBRRRR  happens quite often 2

Playing FTL after 1 VL gives u 6W n 0L  ;D

Important is 2 always bet after 1 VL n after either W or L stop n wait 4 next VL

Regards


With FTL you get killed by series of singles attacking after a Virtual Loss...
R B R B R B R B R B R B


as for beting one of the colors
the adverse formation is Series of the color you are not betting...
Betting R after a Virtual Loss


BBBBBBBBBBBBB = LLLLLL...


:o

Robeenhuut

Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 11, 04:52 AM 2012

With FTL you get killed by series of singles attacking after a Virtual Loss...
R B R B R B R B R B R B


as for beting one of the colors
the adverse formation is Series of the color you are not betting...
Betting R after a Virtual Loss


BBBBBBBBBBBBB = LLLLLL...


:o

Hello AJ

I agree with singles but u stop after 1 bet n wait 4 trigger betting R n i would wait 4 d series 2 end

so if BBBBBBBBBB   i wait 4 RB sequence 2 place a bet

Regards
Matt

albertojonas

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 11, 05:07 AM 2012
Hello AJ

I agree with singles but u stop after 1 bet n wait 4 trigger betting R n i would wait 4 d series 2 end

so if BBBBBBBBBB   i wait 4 RB sequence 2 place a bet

Regards
Very nice.
So far i love we have to trolling over here -God Forbid!  >:D


I will had something else.

[attachimg=1]


Check the pdf attached.
Cheers


Robeenhuut

Quote from: albertojonas on Jun 11, 06:30 AM 2012
Very nice.
So far i love we have to trolling over here -God Forbid!  >:D


I will had something else.

[attachimg=1]


Check the pdf attached.
Cheers

Hello AJ

Sorry i have problem figuring out yr charts. D top one represents flat bet n d bottom one a progression.  Is it 6 step progression after a loss when betting R after 1 VL?
There is no attached spin sample so im bit confused here  ;D

Regards
Matt

albertojonas

Quote from: Robeenhuut on Jun 11, 11:04 AM 2012
Hello AJ

Sorry i have problem figuring out yr charts. D top one represents flat bet n d bottom one a progression.  Is it 6 step progression after a loss when betting R after 1 VL?
There is no attached spin sample so I'm bit confused here  ;D

Regards
this is to show how the results can be filtered by multiple layers:

after 1 loss
after 2 losses
after 3 losses
after 4 losses
after 5 losses
after 6 losses...

On the upper example i use 1 unit in every attack, as for the bottom one :

2 units after 1 loss
3 units after 2 losses
4 units after 3 losses
...
etc.
...

Any other progression can be used.
1-1-1-2-2-3
1-1-2-3-4-7
1-2-3-4-5-6-7-.....


i didn't put the spins because the bet selection is acessory.

Tomla021

This is a very smart thread I hope it goes on
"No Whining, just Winning"

albertojonas

Regarding Hit & Run strategies, in my opinion they only make sense working with the kind of LW registry the bet provides.
Example:
If we play an EC in clusters of 3 outcomes, we have 4 different combinations possible:


X=Same
O=Other


XXX
XXO
XOX
XOO


It is easy to see that if we bet for Same after the first spin, only one in this three combinations gives us a total loss


XXX - W
XXO - W
XOX - LW
XOO - LL


The same would happen if we would bet for "OTHER"


XXX - LL
XXO - LW
XOX - W
XOO - W


albertojonas

Here is an Example on how to play it raw.
As you can see in the pdf this is a live session from casino berlin.


It is played Betting for X "Same" on R&B
Money management is "Foolproof progression" +1 on a Loss ; Same on a Win - Reset on Profit.
[attach=1]

albertojonas

How would we apply Filtering the LW registry in this bet?


One option would be play After LL and use the progression until Even or in Plus.
A succession of mini games would happen. And this is like Hit & Run but with a reason for it.
Another option would be play all this flat bet but then it would become a giant grind.
[attach=1]

Cheers.

monaco

hi albertojonas, & thanks for posting this - v interesting.
1 question, you explained the way to play below:

Quote

L   
L = L
W   
W   
W   
L   
W = W
W   
L   
W = W
L   
W = W
W   
W   
L   
L = L
L   
L  =L
L   
W  =W
W   
L   
W = W
L   
W = W
L   
L = L
W   
L   
W = W
L   
W = W
L   
L = L
L   
W   = W
and so on...

but this seems to contradict this:

Quote
     Quote from: GLC on June 10, 2012, 01:31:23 PM

Looks like we only bet after the 1st L.  then we have to wait for at least 1 W then we can bet after the next L.  Is this right?


GLC
**************************************************************
  correct :thumbsup: but that is only the pricipal of it. :D" src="link:://rouletteforum.cc/Smileys/default/evil.gif">
it depends on the lw registry each bs provides...
another option is to attack after a win that comes after a series of losses
after LL, would you wait for a W to play again, or do you play after LLL?   thanks 

-