A Thread to End the MSIP Confusion (Hopefully)

[TwoCatSam]

Premise:

If I didn't think this was a winning method, I would not waste a minute on it.  But I do and I want to learn it right.

Look at this post by Drazen:

******Mr TCS let me try to explain

Ok you go on last 3 lines until lose. After lose switch to furthest 3 until lose. That is 1 cycle and after that you raise or reduce chips depending on winning/non wining cycle.


5
3
5
2-start to bet last 3 (253)
2w
4L-switch to furthest from the ones you bet (those were 253-so now you bet 416)
1w
4w
5L-our cycle ends and again we bet last 3 so they are 541
1w
2L-now furthest again from last we were betting (furthest from 541 are 236)
6w
6w
5L last (562)*****


That I totally understand and could play it easily........

Now the forum will not let me copy Vile''s post to this post.  Please see next post...........

[TwoCatSam]

Vile's post............
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1,
2,
3,
4,--trigg.to bet las 3 lines...you have asked why 3 last....answer is simple and logical.
      you have much mor chance that these last 3 hit then opposite,as in these situations of 4
      uniques lines it happens in 70% of spins/you can check it up/in case opposite and comes;
5,  now you have much more chance that last 3 will hit,as rarely you see 6 uniques,and with
     logical pressumption that 1 line in cycle of 6 spins almost always sleep.In other words last 3
     lines,in this unique manner,rarely hit less then opposite or there about----egal.

Now the other bet,which is still in testing grounds,come up to my mind while posting this thread.
I have played it couple last nights and realised it could come to some heart/testing situations/maybe it could be good for BV...even Wally Gator session would won flat bet./
This bet wouldn't reccommend to players who are affraid of larger DD......but to me it is nothing
knowing the strike is around corner.....That's what it depends on and so far it always happened.

But frankly prefer the first bet 4 unigues.
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This I also understand.

Here is the question on both:  Are these two different tweaks of the same system?

Here is the question on Vile's post only...........

Suppose I find this:

2
5
4
6.......and I bet the 546

I would just keep betting if I was winning on 546, but what if I lose?  Do I search for another 4 unique or do I switch to those opposite 546, namely 123?
And when I lose on 123, do I search for four unique again?

Sam

[vile]

Sam,
Whenever you lose on last 3 --4 uniques.....YOU ALWAYS HAVE A NEW TRIGGER

4
5
6
3-L...NEW TRIGGER
1-L...SAME
2-L...SAME
5-L...SAME
6-L...SAME
5-W.......DIDN'T GO FURTHER ON LOSING RUN WITH TRIGGERS--AS HAVEN'T SEEN 6 LOSES IN THE
              ROW AS YET.

Now must go to casino.

[vile]

Something very important before going


whenever win tracking 4 uniques start from that winner number.

3
5
2
1l
4l
2w
3...........1,4,2,3 these aren't 4 uniques,we start counting from w 2

[TwoCatSam]

Vile

Thank you very much.

I am totally clear now!

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Here are actual streets from Riverwind today, 6-25

1
1
4
5
6.......four unique..1 4 5 6
1....win
2.....loss...four unique 5 6 1 2
1...win
6...win
6...win
3..loss.......what do I do here?  Last four are 1 6 6 3
3
6
5
3
4


Vile and MOP, please...

Sam

[vile]

Here are actual streets from Riverwind today, 6-25

1
1
4
5
6.......four unique..1 4 5 6
1....win........................................................................lose
2.....loss...four unique 5 6 1 2.....................................lose...end cycle attack
1...win
6...win
6...win
3..loss.......what do I do here?  Last four are 1 6 6 3.....2,1,6,after 3 los..start betting 3,4,5 furthest
3--w
6--l.........track new 4 uniques
5--
3
4


Vile and MOP, please...And what is MOP HAVING TO DO WITH THIS??
SAM WILL SOON SEND YOU EXCEL WITH ALL EXPLANATIONS....as there is more  versions
of the same base bet and you will see what suits you best.

Sam

[atlantis]

Hi Sam,
This is how I understand what vile wrote on how to play original way...

1
1
4
5
6.......four unique..1 4 5 6 (bet next spin)
1....WIN - STOP AND TRACK FOR 4 UNIQUE STARTING HERE... (1)
2
1
6
6
3
3
6
5
3
4....four unique .. 6 5 4 3 (bet next spin)
1....LOST - CONTINUE WITH LAST 3 SPUN  ...3 4 1
1...WIN - STOP AND TRACK FOR 4 UNIQUE STARTING HERE... (1)
3
5
2.....four unique .. 1 3 5 2 (bet next spin)
3.....WIN - STOP AND TRACK FOR 4 UNIQUE STARTING HERE... (3)

A.

[vile]

Sam,
Disregard replay 6/had in mind the other bet 3 last/3 furthest/here it is propely;

1
1
4
5
6....trigger to bet last 3 lines........4,5,6
1-L trigger 1,6,5
2-L trigger 2,1,6
1-W.......wait for new trigger 4 unique lines
6
6
3
3
6
5
3
4.....trigger 4,3,5
1-L. trigger 1,4,3
1-W.....wait for new trigger 4 unique lines
3
5
2..trigger 2,5,3
3-W

In other words after 4 unique lines you are betting on last 3 lines

[vile]

Hi Sam,
This is how I understand what vile wrote on how to play original way...

1
1
4
5
6.......four unique..1 4 5 6 (bet next spin)
1....WIN - STOP AND TRACK FOR 4 UNIQUE STARTING HERE... (1)
2
1
6
6
3
3
6
5
3
4....four unique .. 6 5 4 3 (bet next spin)
1....LOST - CONTINUE WITH LAST 3 SPUN  ...3 4 1
1...WIN - STOP AND TRACK FOR 4 UNIQUE STARTING HERE... (1)
3
5
2.....four unique .. 1 3 5 2 (bet next spin)
3.....WIN - STOP AND TRACK FOR 4 UNIQUE STARTING HERE... (3)

A.

Dear Atl,
We are not betting 24 but 18 numbers,therefore when 4 uniques we bet last 3 of 4 uniques.

[atlantis]

Hi vile,
Agreed and understood. Sorry - I made an error at the beginning of the example and put down doz1 as winner when it was outside the last 3 dozen to be bet. I altered the example to be correct:

1
1
4
5
6.......four unique..1 4 5 6 (bet next spin)
6....WIN - STOP AND TRACK FOR 4 UNIQUE STARTING HERE... (6)
2
1
6
6
3
3
6
5
3
4....four unique .. 6 5 4 3 (bet next spin)
1....LOST - CONTINUE WITH LAST 3 SPUN  ...3 4 1
1...WIN - STOP AND TRACK FOR 4 UNIQUE STARTING HERE... (1)
3
5
2.....four unique .. 1 3 5 2 (bet next spin)
3.....WIN - STOP AND TRACK FOR 4 UNIQUE STARTING HERE... (3)

A.

[haloBing]

Hi vile,
Agreed and understood. Sorry - I made an error at the beginning of the example and put down doz1 as winner when it was outside the last 3 dozen to be bet. I altered the example to be correct:

A.

it seems to me you're wrong again
instead of replacing number 1 with 6 you should change first W into L

[atlantis]

it seems to me you're wrong again
instead of replacing number 1 with 6 you should change first W into L

Hi Halobing - This is just an example chart to show TCS playing the original way; but anyway vile will confirm... Do not think I made a mistake though this time...!?
A.

[TwoCatSam]

Vile

Sorry.  I did not mean MOP; I meant Drazen. 

I have way too many irons in the fire.  Trying to figure out that robot, go to casino all day, etc etc.......

I'm sorry.

Sam

[vile]

Hi vile,
Agreed and understood. Sorry - I made an error at the beginning of the example and put down doz1 as winner when it was outside the last 3 dozen to be bet. I altered the example to be correct:

A.

Lines not dozens