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EC Money / JL Challenge

Started by Skakus, Jul 03, 07:48 AM 2012

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Tomla021

reread your mm and it seems very good on all sorts of bets... testing some baccarat now
"No Whining, just Winning"

Skakus

Yes it should be good for bac, just remember you need to be picking close to 50% correct for this MM to hold. You can pick less but not much less.

It does seem to work well with other bets and I have a system called Gigantor that uses this MM on dozens columns sixlines streets and splits all at the sme time!

You can play one or all or any combination of these table layout bets, but to play them all or even several you would need a bot (run away superman, runaway!) hehehehe!
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

Skakus

Quote from: Skakus on Aug 28, 11:24 PM 2012

I’m using 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13.. etc, up and down until I win 12 units or lose 108 units.

The second bet of every new session is +1 by default, because I follow the wL registry to decide if the bet goes up or down.

If W is leading then W is +1 and L is -1.
If L is leading then L is +1 and W is -1.

I do this until either W or L are leading by 4, then I hold the next bet at the same level.
If W or L are leading by 5, then I hold the next bet at the same level and also dump the wL registry and start a new one.
Then I go +1 by default on the next bet, then go +1 or -1 depending on which is leading the wL registry.

Whenever I win more than 12 units I start the next session with the extra chips.
Whenever I’m close to losing 108 units I will reduce the next bet so that if it loses I don’t go over 108 units, then if it loses will start the next session with any extra chips saved from the previous session. If the reduced bet wins then I will continue on at that reduced level going +1 or -1 as per wL registry.

That’s the whole shebang for the MM.

Example:

1 w1 +1  w leads by 1
2 w2 +1  w leads by 2
3 L1 -1   w leads by 1
2 L2 hold  wL equal so next bet hold
2 L3 +1  L leads by 1
3 L4 +1 L leads by 2
4 L5 +1 L leads by 3
5 L6 hold L leads by 4 so next bet hold
5 L7 hold&dump L leads by 5 so next bet hold and wL registry dumped
5 w1 +1 w leads by 1
6 w2 +1 w leads by 2
7 w3 +1 w leads by 3
8 L1 -1 w leads by 2
7 w4 +1 w leads by 3
8 w5 hold w leads by 4 so next bet hold
8 L2 -1 w leads by 3
7 L3 -1 w leads by 2
6 w6 +1 w leads by 3
7 w7 hold w leads by 4 so next bet hold
7 w8 hold&dump w leads by 5 so next bet hold and wL registry dumped
7 L1 +1 L leads by 1
8 w1 hold wL equal so hold next bet
8 w2 +1 w leads by 1
9 w3 +1 w leads by 2

So on and so forth until I win 12+ units or lose 108 units.     :thumbsup:

I've decided starting new sessions with extra won or saved chips is not such a good idea, because it moves the goal posts too much in regard to the stop-loss settings, so scrap that. Just play new games from 1 unit regardless.

Cheers.
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

xxlakis

Skakus nice idea changing from negative to positive progressions.Lets see how it would hold with my bot.

Skakus

I'm now at 1870 uints


EC Bets 5423
Win      2784
Loss     2639
Flat Bet +145

z-score 4.03   :o

Wow! After more than 5400 placed bets I have achieved a z-score of +4 playing the ECs. I didn't expect that when I started this challenge. :thumbsup:  I'm going after 5! >:D 

I would like to share this system but am of the opinion that it is in the too hard basket when it comes to explaining how to do it, so I'll just play on and let everyone continue with their own ideas, or follow their own guru's ideas.


Thank you very much and good night!
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

Bayes

"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

Still

Skakus 1870   JohnLegend 2012   Google 685.09   Microsoft 30.82   Facebook 18.06  Monster 58.94
Stock is going up! 

Please post data for charts so we can believe it!

Skakus

Quote from: Still on Sep 03, 02:15 PM 2012
Skakus 1870   JohnLegend 2012   Google 685.09   Microsoft 30.82   Facebook 18.06  Monster 58.94
Stock is going up! 

Please post data for charts so we can believe it!

LOL!

More data @ 6000 spins. :thumbsup:
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

Skakus

I just noticed I had the same glitch JL had where the current bank balance didn't reflect some of the bets. I either had 2 programs running or had the results file open while playing or both. I'm not sure, but it did mess up the betting ledger a bit.

I'll be careful not to let that happen again, and god knows how many times it's happened before without me noticing.

Anyway as long as the W/L registry is in tact I don't mind about the bank so much.

Won a few then lost another session of -108 units but the z-score is up to 4.11
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

Skakus

5578 EC bets.
2869 wins.
+160 flat bet.
4.23 z-score.  8)


Even if my flat betting lost at the house edge from here I would still be a little in front at 10,000 spins. :thumbsup:
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

albertojonas


Tomla021

"No Whining, just Winning"

Skakus

Quote from: Skakus on Sep 04, 09:21 PM 2012
5578 EC bets.
2869 wins.
+160 flat bet.
4.23 z-score.

I'm still going, but I've struggled for the last 500 or so spins. Virtually not made any headway at all, but Bayes' rng hasn't got the better of me either.

As you can see I've only made 2 units flat betting for the last 546 spins!

6124 EC bets.
3153 wins.
+162  flat bet.
4.29 z-score.

EC Money bankroll stands at +1938 units
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

Skakus

Update:

6186 bets.

+184

z-score 4.54



By the way I'm playing this all over the place, with real money as well, not just here in the challenge.

It's like the friggin' Hulk, it's smashing everything! :thumbsup:
A ship moored in the harbour is safe, but that's not what ships are made for.

dino246

Skakus,fantastic results !!
All your work on this forum helps to build a PROFIT portfolio.
Many Thanks ( to date )

Dino.

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