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follow dozen with other progression

Started by Stepkevh, Jul 10, 03:09 PM 2012

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Stepkevh

Hello all,

I was playing with the dozens again this morning and hit the roof with the progression
Not that it wondered me, was just waiting how long it would take.

Then i played some stupid bets further until i did something that made the BR rise up with 128u.
I started to bet on 2 dozens with seperate progr like Warrior suggested.
I did not use the prog. mentioned above yet, will test it later.
I just used 1u up on losing dozen and on win reset that dozen to 1u.
Just because it was easier to follow without pen & paper :)

Maybe something to go deeper into (following progr as in 1st post) ??
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

soggett

Quote from: Stepkevh on Jul 12, 03:36 AM 2012
Hello all,

I was playing with the dozens again this morning and hit the roof with the progression
Not that it wondered me, was just waiting how long it would take.

Then i played some silly bets further until i did something that made the BR rise up with 128u.
I started to bet on 2 dozens with separate progr like Warrior suggested.
I did not use the prog. mentioned above yet, will test it later.
I just used 1u up on losing dozen and on win reset that dozen to 1u.
Just because it was easier to follow without pen & paper :)

Maybe something to go deeper into (following progr as in 1st post) ??

really? what step did it go to? and would the 4 virtual L's help?
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

Stepkevh

it went to step 11, on the 12th i had a win.

i know that you loose some units if the bet is getting higher but it goes right up again after al the short
LW's.
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

soggett

Quote from: Stepkevh on Jul 12, 07:40 AM 2012
it went to step 11, on the 12th i had a win.

i know that you lose some units if the bet is getting higher but it goes right up again after al the short
LW's.

Isn't 11 6a?
then it didn't bust the progression at all
or am I missing something?

did another test with 90 numbers, got to +49, highest bet was 6a (24 units)
with waiting for 4 L then playing it would have ended +20, highest 4a (7 units)
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

Stepkevh

no i mean in the progression by just adding 1u / loss and resetting on a win,
that was going until an 12u bet.

the original progression busted this morning
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Stepkevh

Okay back with an update on the progression and played it on double dozens.
Each their own progression offcourse.
In my first post you went up 1 level in the prog on a win.
In the new one, you go up 3 levels on a win.
It goes as follow

       bet   loss   win   profit
1a    1     -1      +2      2
1b    2     -3      +4      3

2a    2     -5      +4      1
2b    3     -8      +6      1

3a    5     -13    +10    2
3b    5     -18    +10    bet on 2a

4a   10    -28    +20    2
4b   10    -38    +20    bet on 3a

5a   20    -58    +40    2
5b   20    -78    +40    bet on 4a

6a   40    -118  +80    2
6b   40    -158  +80    bet on 5a

7a   80    -238  +160  2
7b   80    -318  +160  bet on 6a

if it would be needed

8a  160   -478  +320  2
8b  160   -638  +320  bet on 7a

9a  320   -958   +640  2
9b  320   -1278 +640  bet on 8a

i added an excel with my last game, it went until 80u bet (7a), so 12 losses and the 13th was a hit.
Hopefully this holds better.
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

soggett

Quote from: Stepkevh on Jul 12, 09:03 AM 2012
no i mean in the progression by just adding 1u / loss and resetting on a win,
that was going until an 12u bet.

the original progression busted this morning

I was asking about the original progression in the first place
how did it bust and how far did it go?
just had 2 quick sessions of 60 spins each, both got to 50+, still using the original progression
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

soggett

Quote from: Stepkevh on Jul 12, 09:05 AM 2012
Okay back with an update on the progression and played it on double dozens.
Each their own progression offcourse.
In my first post you went up 1 level in the prog on a win.
In the new one, you go up 3 levels on a win.
It goes as follow

       bet   loss   win   profit
1a    1     -1      +2      2
1b    2     -3      +4      3

2a    2     -5      +4      1
2b    3     -8      +6      1

3a    5     -13    +10    2
3b    5     -18    +10    bet on 2a

4a   10    -28    +20    2
4b   10    -38    +20    bet on 3a

5a   20    -58    +40    2
5b   20    -78    +40    bet on 4a

6a   40    -118  +80    2
6b   40    -158  +80    bet on 5a

7a   80    -238  +160  2
7b   80    -318  +160  bet on 6a

if it would be needed

8a  160   -478  +320  2
8b  160   -638  +320  bet on 7a

9a  320   -958   +640  2
9b  320   -1278 +640  bet on 8a

i added an excel with my last game, it went until 80u bet (7a), so 12 losses and the 13th was a hit.
Hopefully this holds better.

you mean we go up 3 levels on a LOSS don't you?
To beat the game you first have to realise you can't beat the game - then comes the hard part

xxlakis

Just one notice guys.If you gonna use it don't try with dozens but any other 3 sectors (wheel or table based).Basically when you use separate progressions for playing 2 dozens there are 2 things that can kill you.The third dozen hits more that it should or one of the two dozens hits a lot more than the other one.This is why i only play sectors with common progression.If you want something simple play 2 sectors +1 unit on loss and stay even on a win.You usually need a streak of 3-4 wins to be back in profit something that it's pretty common.

GLC

Step,  I see in your spreadsheet you are only betting dozens 2 & 3.  If you include dozen 1 also, with a bet selection method that can pick any 2 or the 3 dozens, it may work by being a little less volatile.  Still only betting 2 dozens at a time.

I also want to point out that I have posted progressions for playing a dozen with parlays.  This system is a little like a let-it-ride bet. 

If you win betting on 1 dozen you will have 3 chips on the table, let-them-ride and a 2nd win in a row will have 9 chips on the table.  Minus your original chip = 8 chips net.

The kicker with this system is the factor that it climbs at a rate that is steeper because of the added element of being able to recover on a single win if you hit on the 1st bet in a level.

It might be tweakable for some improvements.

GLC
In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

Stepkevh

Quote from: soggett on Jul 12, 09:11 AM 2012

you mean we go up 3 levels on a LOSS don't you?

no, on a win, ex. if you win on 4b you go to 3a to place a 3a bet, if you win that one you can reset your progression to 1
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Stepkevh

Quote from: soggett on Jul 12, 09:09 AM 2012

I was asking about the original progression in the first place
how did it bust and how far did it go?
just had 2 quick sessions of 60 spins each, both got to 50+, still using the original progression


its because i played on 1 dozen and had a 12l then a win and then 12l again, so it should go way over the original progression (26 steps or so)
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Stepkevh

@ GLC

you mean switching dozens while you play, one time you play 2-3, other bet you play 1-3 ??
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Stepkevh

Quote from: xxlakis on Jul 12, 09:37 AM 2012
Just one notice guys.If you gonna use it don't try with dozens but any other 3 sectors (wheel or table based).Basically when you use separate progressions for playing 2 dozens there are 2 things that can kill you.The third dozen hits more that it should or one of the two dozens hits a lot more than the other one.This is why i only play sectors with common progression.If you want something simple play 2 sectors +1 unit on loss and stay even on a win.You usually need a streak of 3-4 wins to be back in profit something that it's pretty common.

and by sectors you mean ?  nrs. 1-4-7-10 for example ?
Just call me Stef ... its shorter then Stepkevh :-)

Tomla021

separate progressions on the last two dozens might work well on this. If 1 dozen is clearing out and the other isnt a step back on the bad progression might work out
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