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GLC can you help me understand this staking plan ...

Started by ego, Jul 25, 03:05 PM 2012

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ego


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The 1 â€" 3 â€" 2 â€" 6 System
For even-money betting at Craps, Roulette and Baccarat
System betting means you’re using a specific strategy in trying to be a winner. However, in the long-run, the odds favor the casino and no system can change that fact. That is not to say systems can’t work beautifully in the short term.
What makes the 1 â€" 3 â€" 2 â€" 6 System attractive is that you risk only two betting units for a chance to win ten units. You can make a nice profit with a minimal investment.
The first bet is one unit, if you win, add another unit, making the second bet a total of three units. If you win the second bet, your profit is 4 units and there are 6 units on the table. Remove your four unit profit, making your third bet two units. Now you have 4 units on the table.  Add two more units, making your bet a total of six units for your fourth bet.  If the fourth bet wins you�ll collect a total of 12 units profit.
If you lose the first bet, the loss is one unit. Assuming you win the first, but lose the second bet, your net loss is two units. If you win the second, but lose the third bet, you have a profit of two units. If you win the first three bets but lose the fourth bet, you'll break even.
If you lose the second bet five out of six times and win four consecutive bets once, you’ll be right back to even. Use this system for even-money betting at any game.

Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ego


I don't understand this algorithm.

If i win first then i am +1 and bet 3.
If i lose then i bet 2 and if i win i break even.

Do i restart the algorithm - the point is to strike 4 in a row.

If i bet 1 and lose i bet 3 and win.
Then i bet 2 and lose i break even.

So if i win once in two i win or break even with the chance to strike 4 in a row.

Well now it become so complicated so i don't understand my self.
That is why i woundering if you understand the process using this algorithm.

Cheers


Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

malcop

Quote from: ego on Jul 25, 03:10 PM 2012
I don't understand this algorithm.

If i win first then i am +1 and bet 3.
If i lose then i bet 2 and if i win i break even.

Do i restart the algorithm - the point is to strike 4 in a row.

If i bet 1 and lose i bet 3 and win.
Then i bet 2 and lose i break even.

So if i win once in two i win or break even with the chance to strike 4 in a row.

Well now it become so complicated so i don't understand my self.
That is why i woundering if you understand the process using this algorithm.

Cheers
Hi Ego,

From what I understand about the 1-3-2-6 progression you start the progression back at 1 unit if you lose on your 1, 3, 2 or 6 level.

W1 +1
L3 -2

W1 = +1
W3 = +4
L2 =  +2

W1 = +1
W3 = +4
W2 = +6
L6  =   0

W1 = +1
W3 = +4
W2 = +6
L6  =  +6

Total profit +12 if yo win four bets in a row.

So you se you only really down -2 if you lose the 3 unit bet, and break even if you lose the 6 unit bet, and if you win the 6 unit bet you are up +12 units.

This is purley a up as you win progression.

But the thing to remember is if you lose, you start the progression again at 1 unit.

I have used this a lot over the years playing Baccarat.

I hope this helps.

malcop

GLC

Nice explanation Malcop.

I developed the 1 2 3 5 progression off the 1 3 2 6 idea.

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9862.0

With the 1 2 3 5 progression if you win the 1 unit bet, you have 2 units on the table.

Leave the 2 units for the next bet and if you win you have 4 units on the table.

Take your original unit back and bet 3 units for the 3rd bet.  If you win you have 6 units on the table.

Take back 1 unit and if you lose the 5 unit bet, you're still up 1 unit.  And if you win the 5 unit bet, you are up 11 units.

So, if you lose the 1st bet you are -1.
If win the 1st bet and lose the 2nd bet you are -1.
If you win the 1st and 2nd bets and lose the 3rd bet, you break even.
If you win the 1st 3 bets and lose the 4th bet, you win 1 units.

You either lose 1 unit,  break even, win 1 unit or win 11 units.


In my case it doesn't matter.  I'm both!

malcop

GLC your 1-2-3-5 progresion is much better than 1-3-2-6  :thumbsup:

VLS

Quote from: GLC on Jul 25, 04:07 PM 2012
You either lose 1 unit,  break even, win 1 unit or win 11 units.

Beautiful. Plain beautiful staking plan dear George.

Perhaps a bit of rising on the starting unit at conscious intervals and you can make it as appealing as Mr. Clooney to People Magazine!
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nottophammer

How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Tamino

The  COMPROMISE.

Bet 1 unit  and lose. Bet 2 units and lose  bet 2  units and win. You are only down by 1  unit .   

This is a 3 step operation. Don`t   attempt to recover  lost units. That`s  what  the casinos wants you to do.

A loss sequence of 1-2-3-5 is  not my cup of tea.

It is not how much you win but how little   you lose. Tomorrow is another day.Unless you love to tell TALL Fish stories  .They cost  you money HAHAHA






Turner

I like 1 2 2 and 2 1 on a win
How about 2 4 4 for 1st bet loss....but 2 1 if you win the first bet

The 2 1 on a win can be golden progression of 2 1 2 3 5 or 2 1 2 3 (I prefer)
Just a thought.

Tamino

With  table  pf $ 10   and $ 25 it`s no longer   a  camouflage  behind 1   or  2 units but a stark reality   for    the  recreational player.

Bankroll   requirements ( $25 table Min) $1,000  per  ONE session. Plans  should be made for 3  sessions (  $ 3,000) with an attempt to win 2 out of 3 sessions.  Better to be invested on Wall Street.

With those  rising table min   even seasoned players  are of a different mindset than commonly expected from them.


Tamino




Turner

Quote from: Tamino on Sep 19, 04:16 PM 2014
With  table  pf $ 10   and $ 25 it`s no longer   a  camouflage  behind 1   or  2 units but a stark reality   for    the  recreational player.

Bankroll   requirements ( $25 table Min) $1,000  per  ONE session. Plans  should be made for 3  sessions (  $ 3,000) with an attempt to win 2 out of 3 sessions.  Better to be invested on Wall Street.

With those  rising table min   even seasoned players  are of a different mindset than commonly expected from them.


Tamino

Shame...still 50p min bet inside and £5 EC in UK. No "higher at weekend" malarkey.

But....I will say one thing from my observations.

I have yet to see anyone track anything, check the marque or use any MM, SL.....anything.

Just endless swathes of Asian taxi drivers and Chinese making scale models of New York with their chips on the beize

I did used to see one guy walk around the tables playing 2 Doz and a Quad from the unbet Doz. He kinda looked like he had some kind of plan in mind....I couldnt work out what.

So with that in mind, no need to raise table mins.

Actually, I always feel a bit silly sat looking at the marque with a pen and paper. Im the only one

Tamino

Quote:Actually, I always feel a bit silly sat looking at the marque with a pen and paper. Im the only one******


Don`t feel that way. PLAN your play  and PLAY  your plan. This  in stark contrast to those Asian/ Chinese who play  for LUCK.

Tamno

ausguy

Turner - Scale models of New York is most apt for many B & M casino roulette players. Uneven "weighting" of bets is hard to fathom that many players place ? Many players follow one another with the bets they place, thus some layout numbers, in total, stacked high & others have nil bets at all. How often do you see the ball land on an unbet or low chip bet number & thus the casino "cleans up" again.

Typically I constantly see things like (in $5 chips = inside min.) 26B $20, 29B/32R split $5, 31B/36R 6 line $5, 0,1R,2B,3R cnr $5, 4B/7R split $5, 10B/14R cnr $5, 18R $5, 8B $10, 16R $5, 17B $5, $20 2nd doz, $20 3rd doz. The wheel spins & say 7R drops then the payout is 17 chips ($85 + the $5 bet returned). All the other bets are losers & taken by the casino = $105 - $85 =  -$20  net loss. Too many of the bets, if any win, DON"T cover the total outlays of the other bets ?

For these players it's generally 3 steps back & 2 forward & sooner rather than later their BR is gone & home they do go, usually to return another day to do it all the same again ?

Gamblers INSANITY is worth repeating here = BETTING THE SAME WAY EVERY SESSION BUT EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT THAN THE OTHER LOSING ONES ?

JimmieB

@Turner, Tamino, Ausguy

Lol at your comments - out last night in Glasgow for a friend's stag do & went to the casinos for a bit in the early hours it's only the second time I've been to a b&m casino since being on the forum and there I was sitting with my pen, paper and my calculator on my phone and you do get some funny looks!!

The amount of chip stacking going around me was unbelievable, I thought how do these guys know how much they have won, if anything, I guess they know how much they lose though!!!

ddarko

Quote from: JimmieB on Sep 20, 06:39 AM 2014
I was sitting with my pen, paper and my calculator on my phone and you do get some funny looks!!

You had no problem using your your phone at the table JimmieB ?

O0

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