I think this is abnormal! Opinions?

[Bayes]

Bayes when u include in the bet selection the STD is a dif animal.

In my testing it was every spin bet and NO probability(std-maths) in....
3.000 pure bets and not spins.
This is why its very unusual....

And NO by changing the bets You can t take any advantage because as i said u never know when 1 bet will be favoured or not....so by changing is exactly the same thing-risk.Tunferuk(or something like this) agrees on that

I don't know why you say the STD is different when you're using a bet selection - it isn't. A high STD like the one I calculated for your bet selection can mean one of two things:

1. You really do have a superior bet selection which gives you a mathematical advantage.
2. You don't have a superior bet selection, you just happen to have hit a lucky streak. All bet selections will have runs where they hit 3 or 4 STD, you happen to have chosen this particular method at the right time.

Either way, more testing will give you the truth.

It's not true to say you never know when one bet will be favoured or not. I'm not talking about the very next bet, of course the odds don't change, but mathematically, a severe downswing will be followed by a more average sequence. I can prove it. 

[Robeenhuut]

Sample size is still too small and MOP you preached the need for more testing.
You just got lucky. Now move to other bet selection and hope for similar result.
Do not push it for too long.

Hehe  its just beginners luck MOP.  Havent'u noticed when you test a new stuff it behaves super duper in 1 or 2k spins and after that it tanks like a russian submarine. Bet seriously i dont see any bet selection for double dozens that could produce any good runs. Just playing on gut feeling will probably give you better results than any fixed progression. Today 41 won 8 step progressions in a row within around 200 spins betting for repeat of a single DZ but i did not bet  Generally very allergic to bets that pay you less than you put in.

[Ralph]

Yeh, might get (bet)ter of flat bet zero!

[Master_of_pockets]

I don't know why you say the STD is different when you're using a bet selection - it isn't. A high STD like the one I calculated for your bet selection can mean one of two things:

1. You really do have a superior bet selection which gives you a mathematical advantage.
2. You don't have a superior bet selection, you just happen to have hit a lucky streak. All bet selections will have runs where they hit 3 or 4 STD, you happen to have chosen this particular method at the right time.

Either way, more testing will give you the truth.

It's not true to say you never know when one bet will be favoured or not. I'm not talking about the very next bet, of course the odds don't change, but mathematically, a severe downswing will be followed by a more average sequence. I can prove it. 

"""1. You really do have a superior bet selection which gives you a mathematical advantage.
2. You don't have a superior bet selection, you just happen to have hit a lucky streak. All bet selections will have runs where they hit 3 or 4 STD, you happen to have chosen this particular method at the right time.

Either way, more testing will give you the truth.
""""""""""

Yes we are saying the same thing...this is what I want to find out by testing more.


""""""It's not true to say you never know when one bet will be favoured or not. I'm not talking about the very next bet, of course the odds don't change, but mathematically, a severe downswing will be followed by a more average sequence. I can prove it."""""""""""

Then prove it LoL. Prove how and when u are obsearving the indications that u must change ur bet in order the other bet to win ...

Rob We are speaking about FLAT betting here and mostly betting 2 2:1 bets at the same time....Don t interfear progressions in the thread, because a win in 10.000 spins is easy with progressions....but 3.000 spins flat betting 2 chips in every spin is extraordinary to be UP in the end....

anyway...enough said...there is no reason to post anything else....only testing will show if it was alucky 3000 bets run or not....
Sure by thinking mathimaticaly it was just a lucky run....we all know this....

but einstein also said this : 

[Robeenhuut]

"""1. You really do have a superior bet selection which gives you a mathematical advantage.
2. You don't have a superior bet selection, you just happen to have hit a lucky streak. All bet selections will have runs where they hit 3 or 4 STD, you happen to have chosen this particular method at the right time.

Either way, more testing will give you the truth.
""""""""""

Yes we are saying the same thing...this is what I want to find out by testing more.


""""""It's not true to say you never know when one bet will be favoured or not. I'm not talking about the very next bet, of course the odds don't change, but mathematically, a severe downswing will be followed by a more average sequence. I can prove it."""""""""""

Then prove it LoL. Prove how and when You are observing the indications that u must change your bet in order the other bet to win ...

Rob We are speaking about FLAT betting here and mostly betting 2 2:1 bets at the same time....don't interfear progressions in the thread, because a win in 10.000 spins is easy with progressions....but 3.000 spins flat betting 2 chips in every spin is extraordinary to be UP in the end....

anyway...enough said...there is no reason to post anything else....only testing will show if it was alucky 3000 bets run or not....
Sure by thinking mathematically it was just a lucky run....we all know this....

but einstein also said this : 

Hehe MOP  you were a poster boy for negativity here and suddenly you got excited after winning few units in 1k spins. Come on... what happened?  We all know it was just a lucky run Flat Betting. No reason to dissect STD or other statistical stuff.

[Master_of_pockets]

Not 1K ...3K
And flat betting 2 2:1 bets that as You know its a bad bet....
Anyway as I told you I am also 99.9% sure it was a nice run...but I can t let it...i must test more.
but i have never seen a 2 2:1 flat bet winning in 3000 spins....and i have tested so many flat bets that it could take 3 lifetimes to do it. LoL

catalyst

The thread that u gave me in VLS forum is deleted....
Did this thread had a bet selection of 2 2:1 bets that won after 3.000 bets Flat betting???

[Robeenhuut]

Not 1K ...3K
And flat betting 2 2:1 bets that as You know its a bad bet....
Anyway as I told you I am also 99.9% sure it was a nice run...but I can t let it...i must test more.
but i have never seen a 2 2:1 flat bet winning in 3000 spins....and i have tested so many flat bets that it could take 3 lifetimes to do it. LoL

catalyst

The thread that u gave me in VLS forum is deleted....
Did this thread had a bet selection of 2 2:1 bets that won after 3.000 bets Flat betting???

MOP you always claimed to posses ultimate knowledge of roulette.  So i ask your question you always asked here - Give me a one reason why this should win ?  And 1k or 3k?  I can give you a long list of systems that tanked FB after 10k....Just for demonstration purposes apply only 2% or 3% of your bet total during any amount of spins. It represents just a small variation of STD - ask Bayes. If it wipes out your profit it means you just got lucky. So good luck....

[Ralph]

MOP you always claimed to posses ultimate knowledge of roulette.  So i ask your question you always asked here - Give me a one reason why this should win ?  And 1k or 3k?  I can give you a long list of systems that tanked FB after 10k....Just for demonstration purposes apply only 2% or 3% of your bet total during any amount of spins. It represents just a small variation of STD - ask Bayes. If it wipes out your profit it means you just got lucky. So good luck....

Luck is not JUST! It s the major reason we win. If we accept that, and always must put our skill as reason, we will do better. Still use a method, and pray it will work on the outcome.

[Master_of_pockets]

Rob which part of the: "Anyway as I told you I am also 99.9% sure it was a nice run...but I can t let it...i must test more." you can t understand?

And there is no flat bet selection that was a winner after 9.000 spins in order to crach after 10000.
So don't make up things from your mind.

I also told its Voodoo.....we have 100 posters that beliave in voodoo in here so i think i can also have my voodoo moments...LoL

anyway...your character is always to be negative in anything and try to pick up fights for no reason....
so I won t reply anything more to your posts....

its not you or me or anyone else that can judje this bet selection...only the testing can judje it...

The only thing that I have said is that this 3000 bets result of +44 is really rare-extraordinary and nothing else/././. I never claimed that it is a sure winner....
Bye for now...my next post will be testing result....
By 99.9% the next testing result will be bad.according to mathematics

cya

[Robeenhuut]

Rob which part of the: "Anyway as I told you I am also 99.9% sure it was a nice run...but I can t let it...i must test more." you can t understand?

And there is no flat bet selection that was a winner after 9.000 spins in order to crach after 10000.
So don't make up things from your mind.

I also told its Voodoo.....we have 100 posters that beliave in voodoo in here so i think i can also have my voodoo moments...LoL

anyway...your character is always to be negative in anything and try to pick up fights for no reason....
so I won t reply anything more to your posts....

its not you or me or anyone else that can judje this bet selection...only the testing can judje it...

The only thing that I have said is that this 3000 bets result of +44 is really rare-extraordinary and nothing else/././. I never claimed that it is a sure winner....
Bye for now...my next post will be testing result....
By 99.9% the next testing result will be bad.

cya

No reason to get upset. We all post the stuff that does not work as i did in the past but some fun criticizing never hurt anybody. Relax... i always liked your pain in the behind attitude. 

[Ralph]

I should not stand waiting for  44 chips in 3000 spins. I expect faster win or problem, today I got more than 4000 (in 1 Euro chips).

I do not use a bot (anymore, I can program a such and a new). 4000 spins to get a win is not for a manual  player, its  10 to 100% of the account money, at most 300 spins..

[Master_of_pockets]

3.700 bets +73

But I guess Rob has alreay seen something like this before LoL.
No pain behind my attitude...just logic and education...

This is the only thread that I posted that includes voodoo. and its fun 

[Master_of_pockets]

3.800 bets +93 chips

What the hell is happening?

[Master_of_pockets]

3.900 bets +91 chips

[Bayes]

z = 3.37, or 1 chance in 2261 

Now you're going to say it was all a joke.