P.A :PREACHING about HG!

[ozon]

Hello, my tactics tests look as won 88 sessions 0 sessions lost, never reach stoplose -60 units, I think that after the increase of the trigger to 14-1 or 18-2 this strategy looks promising, but waiting for the trigger may take time

[atlantis]

Hello, my tactics tests look as won 88 sessions 0 sessions lost, never reach stoplose -60 units, I think that after the increase of the trigger to 14-1 or 18-2 this strategy looks promising, but waiting for the trigger may take time

Hi ozon - thanks for your report. That is an excellent result. Thanks for sharing.

You wrote:

after 4 Lose stop and waiting for win this avoid long losing runs.

This is important to know when to stop due to wide horrible variance that can occur. Did you use in your tests?

Thanks,
A. 

[ozon]

Yes, I use this in my all tests, I think that this is the fundamental reason why they are so good.

[denzie]

Hello, my tactics tests look as won 88 sessions 0 sessions lost, never reach stoplose -60 units, I think that after the increase of the trigger to 14-1 or 18-2 this strategy looks promising, but waiting for the trigger may take time

Happy to see this. Im currently at 17 sessions. 16W 1L ( the 1 lost was with very small progression) . As i see -60 im guessing we're pretty much doing the same

[RouletteGhost]

Hello, my tactics tests look as won 88 sessions 0 sessions lost, never reach stoplose -60 units, I think that after the increase of the trigger to 14-1 or 18-2 this strategy looks promising, but waiting for the trigger may take time

What strategy exactly?

[Badger]

Hi Atlantis
Thanks for the reply
I'm playing an EC bet using streets.
I have 50 sessions of 100 spins each.
My average hit rate is 49.3%
The lowest is 38 wins in 100 spins.

[atlantis]

unless this cat lives in time warp knows the future before it happens.They too are walking among us. ROFL. 

Hi ND,
Well now - sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction!   ROFL.
Do all your posts have a "cat" in them?
Miaow!

A.

[atlantis]

Hi Atlantis
Thanks for the reply
I'm playing an EC bet using streets.
I have 50 sessions of 100 spins each.
My average hit rate is 49.3%
The lowest is 38 wins in 100 spins.

Thanks for the stats on that.
R U then playing 6 streets as an EC....?

A.

[Badger]

Yes, 6 streets.
Just a simple strategy to test out PA's advice.
I want to work out a slow progression and see if I can limit the damage caused by
variance.
I'm following PA's advice step by step.

[atlantis]

Yes, 6 streets.
Just a simple strategy to test out PA's advice.
I want to work out a slow progression and see if I can limit the damage caused by
variance.
I'm following PA's advice step by step.

It's good you got something of value out of this. To some it appears as a puzzle wrapped in a mystery inside of an enigma - but there is something worth finding in it. A lot to be said for studying it and "reading between the lines."

I believe PA is providing us with a solid SOLUTION - and not a transient and fairweather ILLUSION.

What grabbed me today on the thread was when he talked about EC bets and dividing or "splitting" a longer session into several sets of say, 20 or 30 spins for analysis...
This really interesting to me and helpful. It certainly opened up my eyes to new possibility - I really think this particular info he shared ought to be carefully looked into by all who are following his preachments.

A.

[Steve]

PA:

1. You say variance cannot be controlled or predicted
2. Then you say you are only measuring it, like waiting to cross a busy road.

You have contradicted yourself.

You are attempting to increase the accuracy of predictions by using variance. It doesn't work. Your approach is based on typical gambler's fallacy where thinking something is "due" to happen. Your odds do not change after a run of RRRRRRBRRRRRRRR or whatever.

It's not the opinion of the "math boys". It is clear fact and testing the principle is simple.

Step 1: Define the rule or triggers for bets
Step 2: Test a statistically significant amount of spins to see if the odds of any event happening are higher after the trigger

You can do it on an excel chart, but again I tested the principle with automated software testing many billions of combinations. Except on some real wheel spins which indicated bias, no sequence of RRRBRBRRB or whatever changed the odds of red or black spinning next.

Anyway this also beating a dead horse. Some people here are not getting it, so they just need to find out for themselves. But really, people please use your brains. Proper testing is not 200 spins here and there. If you do it that way, you'll waste countless hours and still results could be luck only. Even betting random red/black can produce a profit over 10,000 spins. There are always winners, and losers. Most are losers. That's how the house edge works. INSTEAD OF TESTING THE WHOLE SYSTEM AT SNAIL PACE, TEST THE WORKING PRINCIPLE. SEE THE STEPS ABOVE.

[P.A]

PA:

1. You say variance cannot be controlled or predicted
2. Then you say you are only measuring it, like waiting to cross a busy road.

You have contradicted yourself.

You are attempting to increase the accuracy of predictions by using variance. It doesn't work. Your approach is based on typical gambler's fallacy where thinking something is "due" to happen. Your odds do not change after a run of RRRRRRBRRRRRRRR or whatever.

It's not the opinion of the "math boys". It is clear fact and testing the principle is simple.

Step 1: Define the rule or triggers for bets
Step 2: Test a statistically significant amount of spins to see if the odds of any event happening are higher after the trigger

You can do it on an excel chart, but again I tested the principle with automated software testing many billions of combinations. Except on some real wheel spins which indicated bias, no sequence of RRRBRBRRB or whatever changed the odds of red or black spinning next.

Anyway this also beating a dead horse. Some people here are not getting it, so they just need to find out for themselves. But really, people please use your brains. Proper testing is not 200 spins here and there. If you do it that way, you'll waste countless hours and still results could be luck only. Even betting random red/black can produce a profit over 10,000 spins. There are always winners, and losers. Most are losers. That's how the house edge works. INSTEAD OF TESTING THE WHOLE SYSTEM AT SNAIL PACE, TEST THE WORKING PRINCIPLE. SEE THE STEPS ABOVE.

Dear Mr. Steve,
With Due Respect.

Regarding the 'prediction', after measuring the variance.

We simply waiting for an 'ABNORMAL sequence', to happened.
Then bet  the following sequences will, be quite 'normal'.
it is just that simple.

Thanks.
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Hi Atlantis,
With respect.
thanks for your replies,

Please keep your own HG to yourself.
please dont tell the 'detail' here,
everyone must work hard for their own HG...
thanks...

[RouletteGhost]

Just spent some time 40 to 50 pages back

Plethora of ideas and good minds

Bring it back. Even if the systems dont all work those made the forum alive!


just a suggestion: to continue this do it in private. Its the same damn thing everyday now with this thread....hey just an idea

[Steve]

PA, I know what you are saying, but you are wrong. Nevermind though, I said what I had to say.

[thelaw]

Just spent some time 40 to 50 pages back

Plethora of ideas and good minds

Bring it back. Even if the systems dont all work those made the forum alive!


just a suggestion: to continue this do it in private. Its the same damn thing everyday now with this thread....hey just an idea

I agree about taking it private, but PA will not stand for that.

He needs attention to keep this going.

But I'm prepared to be wrong..............................let's see what he does