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#1
Main Roulette Board / Re: 37 back to basics
Last post by praline - Today at 02:25 AM
Great stuff about variance Gogi! Thanks

I made some stats for the "Variance options" to see if it holds constant over different permutations of spins like cycles. And it's not))

(Small remark: I felt like it wasn't the right thing to do, but I just can't pass without testing some "out of the box" ideas with "yet another system recipe". "Yet another system recipe" method from priyanka helps a lot in finding "run from hell" for any system you are about to lose your money with)))

Dozens:

100spins (6sets)

0V 14  8  21  5  9  14
1V 42  35 45  34. 32 34
2V 36. 42 29. 45. 41 36
3V 8.  15 5.  16. 18 16

1000s
0V 130
1V 377
2V 370
3v 123

Lines

1000spins (2 sets)

0V 9  28
1V 78 115
2V 225 240
3V 327 295
4V 249 215
5V 95. 90
6V 17. 17

So not so "constant" but very biased)))
Now I wonder what will happen when I put it all in the oven and bake it with a pitch of cycles and some order)

Time to convert wondering to practice, wondering for 10 years didn't help))


(During my test I found that instead of 25/75 ratio for V0V3/V1V2 roulette can easily produce 37/63 and 41/59.

So pay attention on where and why you are "flushing" your money, fellas!

Have a nice day, everybody!


#2
Main Roulette Board / Re: Destroying RNG
Last post by Interceptor - Jun 14, 04:41 PM 2025
It seems nottopharmer that you and I are the only ones researching rng, that's why we succeeded in that mission, we went to a higher level of roulette playing, and that's a big advantage over other players because the future is rng.
#3
Main Roulette Board / Re: Destroying RNG
Last post by Interceptor - Jun 13, 02:26 PM 2025
I also initially relied on the history of the last 100 numbers, but it always turned out that the history of numbers doesn't mean much and that the law of thirds simply doesn't mean anything and that it leads me in the wrong direction, it all seemed like the rng wanted to trick me and avoid my bets, but it was just a coincidence with a system that is losing.
#4
Main Roulette Board / Re: Destroying RNG
Last post by nottophammer - Jun 13, 08:51 AM 2025
Interceptor
Before UK gov: stopped £100 max spins on FOBT in UK bookmakers, that's what I played.
I was collecting 60 spin results. But unlike the math crew i collected 1st 40 spins in blocks of 10 spins.
Don't know how long was using them. But I was wanting to know how many spins non-hits take to show. Now, with the bookies data and the General's 10'330 spins and airball results from channel ITV showing jackpot joy spins, plus Live German results posted by Ignatus.
It showed those 40 spins usually has 24 of the starting 37, so 16 repeats. Then at 60 spins non-hits were 29.5, round up to 30. 30 of the starting 37 have hit once and these 30 give 30 repeats.
The average has been posted so many times. 9-7-5-3&30. Repeats must be the reverse 1-3-5-7&30
 
Read the excel.
#5
Main Roulette Board / Destroying RNG
Last post by Interceptor - Jun 13, 07:53 AM 2025
For the last few years, I've been fighting rng roulette exclusively, so I don't play live roulette, only rng simulation roulette. Its main advantage is that it has the ability to play quickly and I did the testing myself for real money. The ultimate goal was to find a system that can beat it and prove that rng roulette is not fake as many say. So far my results are satisfactory, so I'm wondering if anyone else is playing against rng roulette and what are your experiences?
#6
Testing zone / Re: Law of 3rd by Drazen on an...
Last post by Interceptor - Jun 10, 04:25 PM 2025
And the question would be how would you develop a system based on this data that ordinary people would understand? The answer is that the rule of thirds is not reliable and that 37 or 74 spins mean nothing because sometimes you will get a similar result with 111 spins and there is also a 2.7% house edge.
#7
Testing zone / Re: Law of 3rd by Drazen on an...
Last post by SWEET - Jun 10, 11:19 AM 2025
You're asking the right question — and I totally understand your goal.

✅ What you want:

For every 74-spin non-overlapping sequence, count how many of the 37 roulette numbers (0–36) do not appear — i.e., how many go unhit. Then we can get a good average number of unhit numbers per 74 spins.


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🛠� Why I haven't run it yet:

The Python analysis tool I use to process that full dataset (1 million spins you uploaded) is temporarily down — it's a system-side issue on OpenAI's end, and I don't have control over exactly when it comes back. It usually doesn't take long — sometimes minutes, sometimes a bit longer. When it's back, I'll immediately run the analysis for you.


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🔄 In the meantime:

You've already pasted:

74 spins → 2 missing numbers

200 spins → 1 missing number


This gives a rough idea that the number of unhit numbers in 74 spins is usually between 0 and 6, and often closer to 2–3 in real-world data.


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📌 When tools return:

Here's what I'll do right away:

Break your 1 million spins into 13,513 blocks of 74 spins (non-overlapping).

For each block, count how many of the 37 numbers didn't appear.

Give you the average, min, and max unhit count per block.

Optionally: histogram or breakdown.


Would you like me to notify you when the tools are back so I can run this instantly?

#8
Testing zone / Re: Law of 3rd by Drazen on an...
Last post by SWEET - Jun 10, 10:43 AM 2025
Sampel from my chatgpt.


The zip file has been successfully extracted, and it contains the file spins1M.txt. Let me know what you'd like to do with this file — for example, analyze the roulette spins, search for patterns, or something else.
The data has been split into 27,027 non-overlapping sequences, each containing 37 spins. For example, the first 10 numbers of the first sequence are:

[21, 19, 29, 36, 7, 7, 16, 12, 20, 2]

Let me know how you'd like to analyze or process these sequences next.
Great question — let me clarify what I meant.

When I said "no single number", I was referring to individual roulette numbers (0–36). What we checked was:

> Out of 27,027 sequences (each 37 spins long), is there any number that appears at least once in almost every sequence?



Result:
There was no single number that appeared in 99% or more of the sequences — not even once per sequence.

This is interesting because you might expect all numbers to get roughly equal exposure, but randomness causes variability. Some numbers just don't show up at all in many sequences.

Would you like to:

Lower the threshold (e.g., check for numbers appearing in 95% or 90% of sequences)?

Look for something else that happens in almost every sequence, like:

At least 30 unique numbers appear?

Some numbers repeat within the 37 spins?

Certain dozens or columns always hit?



Let me know which direction you'd like to explore.




#9
Testing zone / Re: Law of 3rd by Drazen on an...
Last post by SWEET - Jun 10, 10:36 AM 2025
Go chatgpt, upload real data of 1million spins.
Ask like this.

Xxxxx
Here real data of EUROPEAN ROULETTE.

Make 74spins. "NON-OVERLAPPING SEQUENCES."
THEN track in every sequence, how many numbers UNHIT in each 74spins
non-OVERLAPPING sequence.
No need to show step by step.
Just show the SUMMARY of UNHIT .
XXXXXXXX

Why 74spins??? Because if you ask wrongly, you get wrong answer.
37 may get 12unhit.
74 may get 6 UNHIT.

The chatgpt will show you all you need to know, and show many interesting facts and suggestions too!!!maybe you could post here, all the facts here to share with us!
#10
Testing zone / Re: Law of 3rd by Drazen on an...
Last post by nottophammer - Jun 10, 05:57 AM 2025
Interceptor or what aka. you use.
Collect 200 spins from Wiesbaden. You'll get anywhere between 180 spins never 200 as dealer change.
You see the remainder of the spins.
#2 hits consecutively

Would you not WIN.