An effort to help some members get out of the worst gambing fallacy

[F_LAT_INO]

Nothing to do with luck,and you got to try it for money live,not
on the drawing board to know true.All big professionals I have
meet throughout these years entering casinos with hundred of
th.and approaching it as a job,daily investments.Capito Ralf.

[Maui13]

I'm no pro at gambling, but I spend a lot of time reading here. I also spend a lot of time taking bits and pieces and trying to put something together that might help me score a couple of units.


@ MOP - the 1 day I went to a land based casino. (I've only been in land based ones maybe 5 times)
I decided to get some chips and sat down to play. The method I used was CODE 4 on this forum.
I managed to rake up my + 2 units after not even 28 spins. My unit size was as high as I could afford and that paid for my fuel back home (150km) as well as a couple of drinks and food.
I was happy - BUT I decided to stick around. I got up from the table and decided to just watch a couple of more spins before I get back onto the table and push my luck or whatever you want to call it.


And guess what? In the spins I was watching - CODE 4 struck out!!! I was soooooo happy that I didn't continue to play and be greedy.


The moral of the story - had I not played "hit & run" I would have most probably hitch hiked home.
And that my friend is the truth. At the end of the day, *** and I've said this on here before ***
Who are you to judge what is right and what is wrong, who believes in what and who doesn't. You don't have the right to choose for me!


Like I said, I'm no pro, but in the end - if I believe in Santa Clause, let me!
Stop being so negative! 

[amk]

Once again have not read all posts and complete posts yet. Just saw something interesting and wanted to comment, if you don't mind ofourse MOP



Quote MOP:


"people with math education(like mathematicians) when tried to explore roulette for finding a way to make money they never bothered with the Hit and Run approach.Because it was obvious to them (because they know maths) that playing 1000 spins consistently or playing 250 and 250 and 250 and 250 spins hit and run will result in the same thing."



I think the essence of JohnLegends belief in Hit and Run stems from mathematicians lack of actually playing, Hit and Run. I do mean actual live play, not tests even with recorded live spins but actually playing and only those results count.


Few test like this....... 


By definition there is a difference.


Just some thoughts.

[F_LAT_INO]

"""Nothing to do with luck,and you got to try it for money live"""

This thing only a casino promoter would say it.

--MOP I'm getting sick from your deliberate comments.

mod,adm.---do something.

[ginger]

Hello Master_of_Pockets,

You call F_LAT_INO a Casino promoter and that's not fair , I know this gentlemen as a honest men and I have learned a lot from him.

So be carefull what you saying , he is one of the best in this forum.

When I started say 3 years ago with roulette I didn't know anything of this hole game , I followed the best players in the Casino's in Holland week after week.

I asked them several questions and also F_LAT_INO  and he put me on the right way of succes after I never looked back , I don't think he will remember me , because he will get loads of post I think..

I'm never use mat. , I play always live wheel and play most of the time insite bets and use the system DEALERS SIGNATURE , what gives me good money most of the time.

And stop in time if you have no luck that day , tomorrow is another day.

Cheers

John             Rotterdam

[Tamino]

I know  F_LAT_INO for quite  a number of years .At that time he was known    by another SN.

We  exchanged many e-mails  about PROVEN and RELIABLE  systems. We did not discuss any socalled  substandard  brain f-rts .

To call this gentleman a  shill for the casinos  is  a figment of imagination and  I have grave doubts about the sanity of such a person for making such a statement
.
TAMINO

[monaco]

My opinion for what its worth is that MOP is a good person to have around to chop a lot of nonsense out, but... look at Flatino's picture - he's the only one on the whole forum to show his real self, I don't doubt for a second what he posts..


he wins..


i think its for 3 reasons:


1. a few options in his play
2. common sense
3. a big br


i think same applies to Wally Gator.


a single programmable winning system is just a pipedream - its not going to happen is it? the maths dictate it.


there's only winning players, not systems.

[Wally Gator]

My intentions are always good...
Some times i am losing control and I am being nervous when i see that the old members can t understand simple things...but thi is because i am trying to help them and they can t be helped...
And instead of them to try to think ...they are reacting badly...

My intentions are always to help having a more advanced forum....and by having members that think that hot and run is working then the forum will never advance

So, what is it that you are looking for from us?  Understanding?  Agreement?  To stop playing?


Have you thought that maybe us "old members" understand more than you may think?  Do you think you are the first person or the first time us "old members" have heard what you espouse?


As for your comments regarding me and F_LAT being casino promoters, it is disrespectful and borderline slanderous to make such allegations.  We don't appreciate it at all. 


I also believe that you owe F_LAT a public apology.  It's one thing to disagree, it's another to make false accusations.

[Turner]

look at F_LAT_INO's picture - he's the only one on the whole forum to show his real self,

i think same applies to Wally Gator.

Rubbish.....thats not Wally Gators real self picture......

[Blood Angel]

nonsense.....that's not Wally Gators real self picture......

[monaco]

yes it is, I've met him    (not really) but seems to be a v nice gator all things considered.

[Wally Gator]

The photos stopped when the camera lens kept breaking ..... about 35 years ago .......

[MrJ]

--MOP I'm getting sick from your deliberate comments.

mod,adm.---do something.

First off, dont TELL ME to do something. I deleted a couple of his posts. YES, I think the guy is stirring the pot, trying to egg others into arguing with him. When a person gets banned and comes back under a different user name, they *NEVER* post differently. Would I ban the guy (again)? Yes, but thats more of a decision by Steve.

@MOP >> We understand your OPINION, got it, loud and clear. Could you STOP please with the insults? That would be cool.

Ken

[ginger]

Hello Monaco,

You wrote.....look at F_LAT_INO's picture - he's the only one on the whole forum to show his real self.

Well I have to make a little correction here , there is not 1 but 2 who show there real self here on the forum , the second one is me , I use several pictures of myself and the most are made in a dutch casino.

Cheers

John               Rotterdam

[monaco]

Hi John - my apologies.. I thought that was a young Ronnie Lane (The Small Faces)





I didn't mean so much about the picture, more than Flat seems an open person, like Wally Gator, Mr J.. these are people i really dont doubt are winning on a consistent basis..
we can all benefit from learning from them, BUT>>> MOP teaches us to cut out a lot of BS too.. an uncritical forum is not what we need either..