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Started by Priyanka, Jul 01, 08:13 AM 2013

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Priyanka

Thought will put on hold trying any more new methods, eventhough mud slinging was attractive. Wanted to get my basics right and the author system play right. Did more and more testing on paper. Got more Wiesbaden spins and practiced all the five methods over and over again. Didn’t have breakfast, dint have coffee. No one at home helped as well. Wanted to finish one session before I went out with Amol for lunch today.

Stuck to the same set of rules as yesterday. But took Vic’s thought around playing pennies on board and reduced to 0.5 and decided to play BV which will allow me play 50 pence. Gave the quotes on my table stand a stare “Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover” This is what I have set doing by getting into playing roulette. This is what am exploring now. Took a deep breath and decided to give it a go.

7th spin, a mistake. After a double loss in EC PC, instead of switching I played the same side. (ooh! I need to stop making this. Remembered Samster, even 1 a day is going to be a catastrophe. Remembered his example). Paused there for a minute. Decided to give it a break. Made some nice coffee and came back to the screen to continue. Wow! 14th spin BV cut me off. Again ECPC was a cakewalk. By this time, I had won 3 triggers on quad cycle and was about to start on Double treble.

Started a fresh BV session. Started chasing a sleeping line on a trigger in Quad cycle and landed in deep sh1t. I was so immersed in chasing the 1st sector that I stopped playing on double treble as well for some time. Gathered and resumed again. DT went into 6th level without a hit. Ooh! Is it random at play? Is he trying to wipe out everything I got yesterday? But decided to stick to the plan! Became quite nervous. More nervous than the first day as it was a real topsy turvy drive. By this time all my profits from ECPC were wiped out and I was at a drawdown of 22u. And from here on things started to pick up north. Smooth sailing on the author system to flat DD.

In author system, after careful thought process, I decided to switch the progression to cyclic progression as mentioned in Triple shooter. So essentially I played triple shooter with the bet selection from author system. Worked well in tests and worked well in real as well. Around spin number 65, I got into a situation where I had to place bets on all three dozens. BV was not allowing it. So decided to place 1u on Low and 1u on line 4 for the trigger on Quad cycle. It worked in my favour.

To summarize, real topsy-turvy-nervy session. 35u from 77 spins. Out of the five systems played, target reached on 3, stop-loss reached on 1, Abandoned Quad cycle as my other systems plays were over. DID ONE MISTAKE. That’s what I need to work on. I think I also need to work on Flat DD. It is turning out to be long process like Quad. Should I use GLAT? Can anyone advice me on the best double dozen system you have played?

Off to lunch! I don’t think I will dare to play another session today. May be I will be spending the rest of the day with my friends!
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ausguy

BV Roulette is a RNG (Random number generator) game. Like lots of other casinos that have RNG roulette it's not actually roulette that a live dealer spins & generates true random outcomes.

RNG roulette is classed as an EGM (electronic gaming machine) game. EGMs include slots/poker/fruit machines. (programmed manipulated outcomes).
All this is listed on gaming control authorities sites.

Do some homework in the search icon (up towards the top of the forum front page). Use 1. BV roulette, 2. cheating RNG software, 3. RNG roulette for starters.

Also see MM (money management) section - bankroll & bet minimum/maximum, plus progressions.  Betting on the cheapest available game & dividing your BR (bankroll) in my view weakens your position. Even your 1, 000 BR may be too small for proper % play, depending on the table limits. The end game is viable profits not peanuts.

Generally live dealer play has more expensive limits than auto play.

As you already see the value of testing compare some RNG results with live dealer results using your chosen bet method. There are quite a few live casinos that players use, listed somewhere on the forum.

A good live casino to test on is Smart Live, SL (UK). You would need to join up but it's free, then you can use the free play live dealer roulette section where you are linked to the same live dealer wheel that real bets are made on.
The difference is you have 1,000 quid in free no value fun chips to play with. The bet limits are the same as real play.
They also have available a set of last 185 spins that some forum members use for testing.

If you are in free play & want to get "the basics right" then I suggest you also include even chance EC betting ie 1-18 L(low) & 19-36 H(high), odd & even O & E, red & black R & B.
You can start by following the wheel last spin result using a simple double up bet progression Marty (Martingale) 1st L or H, then O or E, then R or B. Then repeat the set.

So on SL off their 10 min. the progression would be 10,20,40,80,160,320 &  limit of L6 & 630 reached as the next dbl up 640 would well exceed the top 1k limit.

Any zero spin up is a losing bet for you. Also don't fall for the casino bonus trap, too many hoops to jump through. Read their T & Cs to see so many bet restrictions.

Priyanka

Thanks ausguy for taking the time and effort to write down about RNG and other things of online roulette playing in detail. Guess I will switch from WH to Smartlive.

Yes! I havnt taken any bonuses  :thumbsup:
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Priyanka

I think I have started to eating and breathing roulette now. Basically we went for a movie after a great lunch. Started playing on the phone while the movie was about to start. I was so glued in, that I continued playing even after the movie started as I was playing with a target of +50/-50 with 0.5chips on Easy peasy system. It went for 110 spins and ended up +50. Max it went down was 34u. I think today is indeed a lucky day for me.

Am I getting addicted? I think am getting more passionate and more adventurous. I think I need to show the horse its place before it gets wild. Goin' for a bit of shopping and some partying with friends in the evening. See you all tomm. Will post the spin data when am back at home.

And NO MISTAKES this time! Hurry  :xd:
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Chrisbis

Makes a good read. Well done!  :thumbsup:
Roulette..........................
Physical in Nature, Random in Opportunity                                                    The Reveal Originator!

ddarko

Just remember Priyanka your playing RNG roulette & that in the eyes of a lot of people (no doubt including the pro's in your family) is NOT roulette........

Happy hunting......

Priyanka

Quote from: ddarko on Jul 03, 02:54 PM 2013
Just remember Priyanka your playing RNG roulette & that in the eyes of a lot of people (no doubt including the pro's in your family) is NOT roulette........
Happy hunting......
please don't consider this rude. I am trying to seek some answers here myself as am very confused after reading through multiple posts. To me both looks the same. RNG could be rigged, live casino could be rigged. I have two sets of spins below. One from BV and one from Wiesbaden. Can ddarko or the lots of people who believe they are different tell me which set of spins is RNG and which one is live roulette.

[reveal=1st set of spins]
16
32
32
15
7
32
11
5
5
32
34
2
36
28
2
3
29
2
4
31
36
24
6
4
27
10
22
7
6
35
11
6
4
28
35
2
28
19
6
7
18
10
5
1
29
12
24
0
31
30
22
0
27
27
4
35
15
20
11
20
11
9
16
12
31
11
12
8
0
3
6
14
10
1
9
35
26
34
4
0
14
29
19
29
20
23
12
24
32
20
28
5
13
29
32
8
27
32
33
7
[/reveal]

[reveal=2nd set of spins]
33
2
35
12
35
18
28
22
17
23
13
15
17
12
5
11
14
31
3
2
27
26
21
3
24
34
26
34
0
20
0
0
27
25
5
20
3
25
22
12
31
25
22
34
5
3
5
32
8
15
11
3
10
34
20
29
4
21
0
21
12
33
4
13
35
34
14
24
24
5
0
30
22
3
0
9
32
23
16
4
34
8
18
10
24
28
13
21
11
26
30
32
6
22
21
25
22
8
27
15
[/reveal]
Disclaimer : Roulette systems are subject to laws of probability. If you are not sure about the effects of it, please refer to link:://:.genuinewinner.com/truth. Don't get robbed by scammers.

iggiv

live game is much less likely to be rigged. And RNG may be not rigged, still be very different from real wheel. The nature of randomness here is very different. mechanical device as a wheel and something we don't know at all about -- computer algorithm which can do anything.

ddarko

@ Priyanka

You are not being rude, it's a fair question to ask. Re your numbers that you posted I have NO idea which is RNG n which is live dealer.......

But I DO know one was created by a computer n one created by a man made piece of machinery.......

I know which one I would prefer to play !!!!

Priyanka

Quote from: ddarko on Jul 03, 09:00 PM 2013

But I DO know one was created by a computer n one created by a man made piece of machinery.......

How do you know?
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Priyanka

Quote from: iggiv on Jul 03, 08:39 PM 2013
live game is much less likely to be rigged. And RNG may be not rigged, still be very different from real wheel. The nature of randomness here is very different. mechanical device as a wheel and something we don't know at all about -- computer algorithm which can do anything.
Fair comment. Now taking the "rigging" out, does the patterns produced by these two differ.  How can one tell which one is by RNG and which one by wheel. Is there anyone/anything who can differentiate and if so what do they look at to do that?
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Blood Angel

Oh go on then! First set of spins is RNG imo.

Chrisbis

Are the first set from Bet Voyager ?

EDIT.........

This post had to be moderated for some reason!
Roulette..........................
Physical in Nature, Random in Opportunity                                                    The Reveal Originator!

ddarko

Quote from: Priyanka on Jul 04, 12:40 AM 2013
How do you know?

Erm.... Because you stated it in your first post. You lying would kinda defeat the purpose would it not ?

Priyanka

Folks, Don't take me wrong. I am trying to learn the tricks of trade and I need to know if there is anyone who can differentiate between the RNG spins and spins produced by wheel (whether dealer or airball), so that I can learn from them.

Darko, am not lying, my intention on the question was which was which? You said one is computer and one is wheel, because I said so. But I want you to tell from the numbers? First of all is it possible at all? If its not possible, and if we take the rigging part out, then isn't it essentially the same?

Chris, not sure whether I said something wrong, as you requested it to be moderated. Let me know if I did and I will correct myself.

Chris, Bloodangel - the first one is from Dublinbet live wheel and the second one is from BV. Though you were not right, but something made you both say that the first one is from RNG. Can you explain what? I am more interested in finding what made you say so, rather than whether you are right or which one is which. Because, I believe "what" holds the key and I will be very grateful to know that and benefit from your experience.

Disclaimer : Roulette systems are subject to laws of probability. If you are not sure about the effects of it, please refer to link:://:.genuinewinner.com/truth. Don't get robbed by scammers.

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